Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Only skimmed it but

Publicly available statistics tell us that in Italy over the last five
years, flu deaths have been running at 17,000 per year, say in round
terms, 1400 per month.

and

First, that if the Coronavirus is here for some time, and if it
continues to cause around 10,000 or 12,000 deaths per year, the total
death toll would rise by that amount. Yet the extra deaths would still
be lower than the “normal” flu deaths with which we have been living
for many years.

Quick google tells me Italy has had about 8200 corona related deaths so far, and that's in a just few weeks. Highly doubt it'll stop at 12000 or 17000.

I get his point, that people die of the flu and other "avoidable" causes every year, but the current spike we have is still something out of the ordinary