Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Is she able to carry a weeks worth of shopping? Have you offered to help?

Elderly woman from our blocks of flats still doing her daily walk to the shop in the morning. Infuriating.

Because she’s out getting exercise and combining that with her shopping? Or because nobody has offered to do her shopping run for her so that she can do her exercise with a maximum of physical distancing? Or what, exactly?

Victoria Park completely closed

That's a bummer.

This looks like the video game "the division" (set in post outbreak nyc), those field hospital tents were everywhere

USA - this is what happens when the 'belief' comes above science at a state-wide / country-wide level. The sad thing is that the blame will no doubt be shifted elsewhere (forrins, poors etc) while the slimey fuckers responsible carry on their million-dollar lives cocooned from the impact.

I’d imagine they’ll be reported just as a death unless consent is given for age, condition etc.

Oh if that's the case, then alright. I read it as 'deaths will not appear in the statistics if consent is withheld', which sounds a bit weird.

Knee jerk annoyance, sorry. There's been help offered around in the blocks - unfortunately I'm in a different one and I don't know which she's in. The regularity with which she does it makes me think it's a wellbeing thing - has been going out in exactly the same manner for as long as I can remember. I just wish she'd stay at home, I get so sad at the thought of vulnerable people getting it when it could be avoided.

“Pray for *insert own disaster*”

They're closing early so teachers can get online learning up and running in time for after Easter apparently...

There seems to be so many extra layers within the US in terms of how they are able to mobilise their response. Private health care and private entities working with/for the government. The size of the country and the huge differences of population density and cultural behaviour in it. The state control working with government level, but with differing messaging or aims. The more partisan political aspect in getting a bill agreed. It all must hamper any speed they would like to work at when speed is the critical thing. The press conferences are disjointed with a group of people jostling on a small stage for a single podium giving the correct message of "social distance".

Presumably they have the true numbers for the people actually running the modelling and response though - though you're right, it'll mean they can't be held to account given that they're underpublishing the figures.

It is odd - and it's a requirement that they'll have to drop as simply getting permission for increasing numbers of deaths will become impossible due to scale.

I suspect like many things around this there is further nuance for a variety of reasons.

It’s unlikely there is a “true” number, for many reasons already detailed in this thread.

PHE small number policy around HIV/STI
I think it would be similar.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/423828/20150424_PHE_HIV_STI_Data_Sharing_Policy_v4.1.pdf

if the denominator is less than 10,000 you have to supress the value being communicated. So instead of 3, you'd say <10 or something.

This looks like the video game "the division" (set in post outbreak nyc), those field hospital tents were everywhere

Exactly what I'd been thinking too.

A week of working from home now. Feel like I'm finally into a groove.

Took my bicycle out yesterday to deliver some supplies to people who are alone and cannot visit the shops for obvious reasons.

It was absolutely dead. Even when I've cycled around town at 2am its been busier.

Great news everyone, it's safe to eat pangolin again: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3076970/pangolins-may-not-have-passed-coronavirus-humans-say-chinese

On the downside, we're still no closer to knowing where this came from.

Ok, well Vic is already closed so I don't know why they're waiting. Maybe QLD is on different holiday schedule?

The younger kids are still going because mum is running the covid-clinic and dad is at a mine site. Other brother has older kids so not sure what they're doing - heard online lessons mentioned but don't know how quick they can set that up.

Is it weird that the country is in "lock-down" but the airports seem to be in business as usual? Or is it too late for anything to happen at the borders now as it's already everywhere?

I flew into Gatwick on Tuesday (having been traveling for ~40 hours surrounded by coughing/sniffly people); got to Gatwick & there was a small table in the corner of the immigration hall with some sanitiser on it & a poster of "Don't spread it" but nothing else. No questions asked about prior trips (Italy, China etc...), no screening, no forms or information handed out. This is a stark contrast to Auckland, Bali & Dubai which all had lots of announcements, social distancing markers, temperature scanners etc...

in business as usual

I'm not sure 70% reduction in flights is "business as normal".

Gatwick sounds fucked. But not as fucked as the Aussies unloading 2700 cruise ship passengers into Sydney without a single check.

If everyone goes home to isolate for 3 weeks I guess the idea is that that'll be enough?

Living under a flight path - far fewer planes overhead.
City Aiport closed until end of April. Offering use to gov if needed - is right across from Excel (NHS Nightingale) https://twitter.com/LondonCityAir/status/1242858471357386752/photo/1

I don't think airlines think it's 'business as usual', see this video for example...

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And living under one of Heathrow's flight paths, I can definitely say it's been awfully (blissfully?) quiet these last few days...

Isn't it quiet out there?
Last Thursday afternoon, cycling home, I wondered what 'that' noise was.
It was persistent, monotonous, a low rumble.
Eventually I twigged it was the tyre noise,
of the Marathon Plusses on the bituminous surface.
Normally there are enough cars, approaching, just overtaken,
on the 'next' road, there is enough background noise to render the bikes' tyre noise inaudible.

This morning, no Builders' vans, seemingly no supermarket deliveries, no Yodel/DPD deliveries,
even the woman who commercially walks 6 yapping/barking dogs hasn't (yet) arrived.
No distant rumble from Chiltern Line trains,
and, even CostainSkanska jv seem to have stopped destroying the trees on Ruislip Golf Course.
(Did have a load of helicoper clatter early yesterday evening,
but,
we are under the flightpath between RAF Northolt an HMS Warrior in Northwood).
It's almost enough to make me listen to Depeche Mode.

I'm not sure business as usual is the right phrase. Flights are down over 75%