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Thanks - saw that. Although just also seen that newer apple TVs don't have the optical out anymore - and mine is coming new from Apple tomorrow so assume this means mine. We'll see...
To be honest apple TV is mostly for zwift where I'd have my own music anyway, perhaps it doesn't matter and I'd always be using the chromecast
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Q5 Pro has optical in.
not sure 2 sources can share one optical in though