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  • There is a very big difference between going for a ride on your own, not touching anything but your bike, with a pretty considerable distance to any other human, and going to a fucking social gathering where you stand around in close proximity, possibly in a semi-enclosed area, and pass each other things.

    I agree! But you're missing the point that some people are doing those things because their common sense tells them that it's fine to bend the rules. We need to be really careful that we're not doing the same (and being perceived as doing the same) because there is no a priori reason that anyone should trust our judgement and not theirs.

  • because there is no a priori reason that anyone should trust our judgement and not theirs.

    But it's not really about 'our' vs 'their' judgement - one thing is something that is a group activity, the other one isn't (or at least doesn't have to be the way most people on here do it now). Refer to literally any person who knows something about disease spread to figure out which one is probably a lot more OK than the other.

    Sure there's idiots who will justify doing a group activity to themselves somehow, but, well, they're just wrong about that and it's not exactly difficult to explain why it is a bad idea.

  • it's not exactly difficult to explain why it is a bad idea.

    Did you miss it when more than 17 million people voted for Brexit? It's incredibly difficult to convince people that they're getting shit wrong. It's made near-impossible if they see people all around them apparently doing the same stuff they usually do. It doesn't matter that one is objectively wrong and the other isn't.

    I trust myself to own a handgun. I know I could be safe with it. But I still don't want to be able to own one because it would mean that everyone else would be able to own one too, and I don't trust them. That's kind of how this is going down.

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