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There is a very big difference between going for a ride on your own, not touching anything but your bike, with a pretty considerable distance to any other human, and going to a fucking social gathering where you stand around in close proximity, possibly in a semi-enclosed area, and pass each other things.
I agree! But you're missing the point that some people are doing those things because their common sense tells them that it's fine to bend the rules. We need to be really careful that we're not doing the same (and being perceived as doing the same) because there is no a priori reason that anyone should trust our judgement and not theirs.
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because there is no a priori reason that anyone should trust our judgement and not theirs.
But it's not really about 'our' vs 'their' judgement - one thing is something that is a group activity, the other one isn't (or at least doesn't have to be the way most people on here do it now). Refer to literally any person who knows something about disease spread to figure out which one is probably a lot more OK than the other.
Sure there's idiots who will justify doing a group activity to themselves somehow, but, well, they're just wrong about that and it's not exactly difficult to explain why it is a bad idea.
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Why should one of the most low-risk activities there is, along with walking and running and similar stuff, not be 'business as usual' for as long as possible? Is the goal here to create the maximum disruption possible?
We do. No one here advocated going on a big group ride and hanging out together at a cafe. In that sense, it's already not 'business as usual' at all.
Sorry, but no. That's just bullshit. There is a very big difference between going for a ride on your own, not touching anything but your bike, with a pretty considerable distance to any other human, and going to a fucking social gathering where you stand around in close proximity, possibly in a semi-enclosed area, and pass each other things.
This is exactly what I meant earlier: Banning social gatherings is of course under normal circumstances a pretty big violation of people's normal rights, but it makes sense in this context as it is in fact a prime way of spreading the infection very quickly, and therefore a priority in terms of things that need to be addressed. That however does NOT mean we now need to ban everything you could possibly do immediately.