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• #152
You are saying "risk isn't being minimised elsewhere, so why should I minimise risk myself?"
That is not what I'm saying, in fact I specifically stated that "of course we want to mitigate risks". From a societal standpoint though, which is the one the government should take, it is about fighting the big sources of infection first.
I'm just drawing attention to the fact that what a lot of people here consider to be a normal amount of exercise does not appear normal to others right now
Honestly, that's the problem of those 'other people'. Also, how exactly are people judging how much exercise I'm doing when I'm out and about on my usual run? I'm not carrying a placard telling them which kilometre I'm on.
Indeed, but the government does not have the resources to go through every activity and say [...]
But I'm not asking them to. At all. I mean, all I'm really doing here is being frustrated and annoyed anyway, to be honest. But inasmuch as I'm trying to bring across any point, I'm just annoyed at how quickly some people support measures to curb a basic human right like going out for a walk or run or whatever, and how stupid that looks next to seemingly no measures being taken for the much bigger risks that still exist.
And it's not me asking for special permission for that one special thing that only I want to do, it's really not. Getting out for some fresh air is a basic human requirement, that's why people are punished with imprisonment. And while I'm out, it really doesn't matter whether I'm walking, jogging, nordic walking, cycling, recumbent cycling, or walking backwards on my hands, as long as I keep away from others and don't do it in a group of people I don't live with.
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• #153
Sure, that is a good point.
Also general apologies if I come across as very cranky, it's because I am.
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• #154
:)
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• #155
that's why people are punished with imprisonment.
They still get out for a bit of air quite often
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• #156
Mate, let it go. We've been asked to do minimal daily exercise. That might mean none to some people or a quick spin on the bike to others.
No need to be pissy. Any of you.
this
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• #157
If you wanted a comparison, this is comparable to people picking up 3
extra tins of beans because they can rather than they need them.Yes.
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• #158
I sound like a fucking libertarian saying this
Yes.
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• #159
They sometimes have a point, even if it is accidental.
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• #160
Rode my bike in Richmond Park today. It was lush. Fairly quiet by ordinary cycling standards, obviously no traffic, a few walkers about, sun shining.
Just wanted to spin the legs a bit, did 2 glorious laps with a few “morning”s as I passed people at a safe distance.
Almost ruined though on the 3rd lap by 3 choppers on aero plastic bikes, elbows on the tops of their bars, smashing it round at 40k passing me with inches spare on an otherwise empty road. They weren’t together either. 3 separate choppers getting in their “training”.
Knock it off.The 4th plastic bike whopper looked to be going quite deep to stay ahead after passing me though so I gladly obliged and passed him riding off into the distance on my skinny steel bike with a smile on my face
/CSB
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• #161
LFGSS 2013: active 'fuck the police' thread
LFGSS 2020: OMG BBQ NEXT DOOR CALL POPO
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• #162
Almost ruined though on the 3rd lap by 3 choppers on aero plastic bikes, elbows on the tops of their bars, smashing it round at 40k passing me with inches spare on an otherwise empty road. They weren’t together either. 3 separate choppers getting in their “training”.
Thats the full RP experience
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• #163
obliged and passed him riding off into the distance
I hope by more than 2m otherwise he's probably writing a very similar post in his Rapha/Cat7/Whatever forum now.
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• #164
Where's this BBQ?
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• #165
Genuine question... lots of people on here seem to be het up about more or less than an hour. Can anyone point me in the direction of government advice, or official public health source that states this?
There isn't any in the UK. There is in other parts of the world, eg France, where they are ahead of us on the infection curve and restrictions are tighter.
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• #167
lol
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• #168
Wasn't the cycling good today?
Rode to the Olympic Park, Victoria Park, London Fields then down through the east end and City to Hyde Park. Around there once then up to Regents for a half clockwise to send me back via Angel, and home again.
Thought about kicking up towards Ally Pally then back through Clissolds but decided it would be better to come back here and brag about how moderate I'd been.
47KM before 12:00, pretty happy.
Standing in line at the Aldi this morning with coughing people and nobody wanting to respect the 2 meters, not happy.
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• #169
Uploaded to Strava for Government review.
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• #170
From a societal standpoint though, which is the one the government should take, it is about fighting the big sources of infection first.
So people were asked to work from home; schools were shut; restaurant, clubs and pubs were shut; and now other non-essential shops were shut and people have been asked to stay home if possible. How much more needs to be done before we stop think that it's just business as usual from a cycling perspective? Why can't we do our bit to minimise risk around cycling before everything else is sorted first?
I'm just annoyed at how quickly some people support measures to curb a basic human right like going out for a walk or run or whatever,
I don't think that anyone here is suggesting that we do that (I'm not), just that we contribute to minimising the risk as much as we can in a way that's compatible with maintaining our mental and physical health.
And while I'm out, it really doesn't matter whether I'm walking, jogging, nordic walking, cycling, recumbent cycling, or walking backwards on my hands, as long as I keep away from others and don't do it in a group of people I don't live with.
"Well it's all people I've seen recently isn't it? And we're not going to be hugging one another, and the kids have all probably had it already anyway, and we'll all have separate drinks, so it's not like anyone's going to be catching it at a barbecue is it? And we all need to get together now and then to keep our spirits up", @Aroogah's neighbor (probably).
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• #171
Went for a south London hills ride yesterday evening. It was nice, very quiet and peaceful.
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• #172
How much more needs to be done before we stop think that it's just business as usual from a cycling perspective?
Why should one of the most low-risk activities there is, along with walking and running and similar stuff, not be 'business as usual' for as long as possible? Is the goal here to create the maximum disruption possible?
Why can't we do our bit to minimise risk around cycling before everything else is sorted first?
We do. No one here advocated going on a big group ride and hanging out together at a cafe. In that sense, it's already not 'business as usual' at all.
"Well it's all people I've seen recently isn't it? And we're not going to be hugging one another, and the kids have all probably had it already anyway, and we'll all have separate drinks, so it's not like anyone's going to be catching it at a barbecue is it? And we all need to get together now and then to keep our spirits up"
Sorry, but no. That's just bullshit. There is a very big difference between going for a ride on your own, not touching anything but your bike, with a pretty considerable distance to any other human, and going to a fucking social gathering where you stand around in close proximity, possibly in a semi-enclosed area, and pass each other things.
This is exactly what I meant earlier: Banning social gatherings is of course under normal circumstances a pretty big violation of people's normal rights, but it makes sense in this context as it is in fact a prime way of spreading the infection very quickly, and therefore a priority in terms of things that need to be addressed. That however does NOT mean we now need to ban everything you could possibly do immediately.
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• #173
Surprised anyone on here has any time to go out for a ride given the amount of time they're spending bitching about it
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• #174
I was going to use the afternoon for bitching but I think everything is in hand currently.
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• #175
Lol
Ftfy