Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

it's extremely therapeutic.

Youtube is a rabbithole for pasta & noodle making.

Do we have to?

I'm going with spaetzle tonight. Always a crowd-pleaser.

Child 3 asked if we could stay in quarantine as I've been making mostly his favourites for the last week. Was less keen when I started foraging* wild garlic from the garden and cooking oyster mushrooms I've grown on a bin bag in the garage.

*picking

Olympics finally postponed then...

I've never had rabbit hole pasta. is it like a 20 point star shape or something?

Gutted I haven’t been able to get back to my wild garlic spot and didn’t freeze any last week.

Youtube is a rabbithole for pasta & noodle making.

And lock-picking, I have discovered.

Annual global deaths from starvation ticked past 2 million this week whilst Covid-19 deaths for the equivalent period are still under 17,000.

With a global recession now pretty much accepted by everyone when will arguments start to be made that we've prioritised the wrong thing and the economic consequences of our actions now will cost more lives later on than we're saving now?

That is essentially Trump’s argument.... massively ironically. Not that he’s coming at it from that perspective obviously.

I think the general consensus is that an unchecked and virile virus won’t help things either way though right?

I'm only the eggs and the flour short of making some ghetto pasta using a cycling multi-tool and cheese grater.

I have decided once I can get stocks of the above, I am going to try and make some pasta in the shape of the Corona virus. This time next year Rodders we'll be miwionairres.

I guess it would have needed a collective global decision to have prioritised the economy over immediate lives as it would have been reliant on the global flow of goods and services still operating.

I'd be interested to read the various models and papers when this is explored in a few years time.

just picked up 10 olympics tix 4 cheaps.

gold!

It will. Massive accidental experiments might prove really informative? The ecological data is already astonishing.

And dishwasher repairs

I sadly imagine the deaths from economic consequences may be greater. But understandably governments have to act to protect the stability of our health systems and immediate lives.

Unfortunately deaths from a vast array of inequalities are accepted as the norm in our current global system - wealth inequality, climate change, air pollution etc...

Yeah I'm pretty sure global deaths will sadly be greater as a consequence of the economic crash. It once again highlights the cliche that 'not all deaths are equal'. Impossible choices to make by governments but I've seen very little commentary or modelling on short term vs long term death prevention.

I was having similar thoughts but it seems the relationship is not that clear : https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00210-0

Old news 😉

I guess it would have needed a collective global decision to have prioritised the economy over immediate lives

Isn’t that somewhat what has happened?

We have wound down the economy as we work out how to feed and maintain some public health in a reality we didn’t plan for. Many experts had an input.

We didn’t do exactly what epidemiologists suggested.

I meant if the strategy had been to prioritise the economy at the expense of greater immediate loss of life but a long term reduction in total fatalities. It would have needed countries to have agreed to keep production going and borders and markets open etc. Essentially to have acted like it was just a particularly dangerous and virulent version of the Flu.

From the Grauniad today; Orlando Bloom delivering facemasks on his sweet fixeh.

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update, currently running the website, will be closing completely on Friday. Orders to be stopped tonight/tomorrow; then we have time to ship everything out before we finish for a while!

https://youtu.be/RZ2oXzrnti4

Annual global deaths from starvation ticked past 2 million this week whilst Covid-19 deaths for the equivalent period are still under 17,000.

If Covid-19 goes unchecked throughout the world then even a conservative 1% mortality rate will see 78 million dead so it has the capacity for outstripping deaths from starvation (albeit for a short while).

..and you can guarantee populations who are starving will be hit far worse by it too.