Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

It's nice to see that Boris didn't ban the favourite pass time of lufgussers...

...squabbling on the interwebz!

Get off your high horse. You seem to be intent on making this some kind of class war when I said nothing about launderettes so obviously I understand why people would use one.

To get this back on track, the rules are sufficiently vague that you could make anything out of them. The UK government needs to be clearer about what they mean but it's easier to produce a list without any refinement than actually be precise. Where I live, "pure play" dry cleaners are shut, launderettes are open, anyone who does both is open too (for now).

Given that quite a few countries including GB have confirmed they will not send a team, it was inevitable.

They should go out on a bike ride to calm down.

Uh oh...

Loads of builders/sky fitters/mechanics about today. Seems like the people across the ways house extension is still on full building team. Self employed considering going to work to be an essential, I suppose, rather than universal credit?

True of course but it’s madness having people crammed together on the tube like that

Mate, you're the one who took offense at my tongue in cheek suggestion that you missed the point of the exemption;

I dunno about you but whilst I'm keeping my clothes clean I also don't think it's the moment to break out my best suit that needs dry cleaning rather than the stuff I own that I can throw in my washing machine.

This smacks of a tone of judging others who might use the service, negatively. You could have taken what I said for what it was and either reconsidered your comment or admitted your oversight. Instead you took grave offense, which is stereotypical of someone being called out for not checking their privilege.

I understood that in Italy, for example, they're not holding public funerals at the moment.

That’s true currently. I think they’re still largely burying.

South Korea had infection clusters around funerals and moved to cremations with no ceremony. We should probably follow that I guess for minimum transmission but it’s just so damaging. I wonder if very small funerals, recorded somehow (to be viewed by those who’d normally attend) would help?

Day one of ISO and we’re bickering about dog leads and fucking dry cleaning. Wind it in people. The document is a grand total of two pages long.

What will now be immediately reduced are those big groups on Broadway and Columbia rd markets and non essential shops. The guidelines regarding everything else is still essentially in the eye of the beholder.

If you decide your work “can’t be done from home” you can still elect to travel.

Exercise is once a day and there really aren’t any other restrictions as long as you’re with people from your own residence or you are alone.

Of course you can walk the dog or dogs of someone who needs that help.

Government have said builders should continue 🤷🏻‍♂️

Support your local brewery. Inkspot, Herne Hill, Canopy are all delivering (or were till yesterday)

If any of them make an alcohol free, or under 0.5% beer, then happy to do so.

Ah, that explains it then.

Talking of booze Mrs W and I realised our consumption is through the roof. Comfort eating and drinking and nightly WhatsApp beers with friends will have us very very unfit before this concludes if we don’t change tack quite quickly. Might not venture out to replace that Ben & Jerrys I demolished last night!

Day one of ISO and we’re bickering about dog leads and fucking dry cleaning. Wind it in people.

It's just as important to call out if people are incorrectly negging others because they think they are flouting the guidelines because they don't have a similar set up/experience/situation as them.

And I don't mean to single out @atz here (truly). There was a misconception, it was called out (sarcastically, by me - probably not helpful) and offense was taken to being called out/corrected (or offense to how that call out was made).

More broadly, I am seeing people on social media lambasting those who have no choice but to open their shops or travel to work saying "why can' they just follow the rules like everyone else", and by that there is often an undertone of unrecognised privilege. I have already seen this morning (I need to delete Facebook), a cushy IT home worker sharing pictures of packed tube carriages calling all the travellers "wankers". No consideration given to who those people are, what they do or how they might be feeling having to get on that packed tube with every other fucker. They might be doctors or nurses, they could be labourers working in a hospital, they might be cleaners.

I agree 100% and always buy from small brewers. Mine are Redwillow/Buxton up north. I can buy their cans from the local offy, thus spreading the benefit.

I’ve asked the offy via twitter.

The free group calls on Zoom are limited to 40 mins. Does anybody know how soon you can restart a call after it ends please?

If it was for business use, I’d gladly pay but it’s to do a ‘pub quiz’ for a mate’s birthday.

I am seeing people on social media lambasting those who have no choice but to open their shops or travel to work saying "why can' they just follow the rules like everyone else"

Cunts gonna cunt.

The drivers are horribly aggressive and one spat at me on my commute to work.

This is London, my friend. Be glad that little has changed.

[Edit ] In case the sarcasm is missed - that's pretty grim. Did you manage to get their reg? I'm sure a police report would be in order - Spitting could be considered assault at the best of times.

there is a freaking epidemic in your city

this needs a tune and guitar riff ^

Good post. Would read again.

I wondered about that. Fully admit not knowing enough about the issue to make an informed comment, so I thought I fit right in here

Rep

I completely agree with this. Completely. You’re right... but look at your second paragraph as an example of how much energy we’re exchanging in the service of logic! It really is a mine field isn’t it.

I’m still in two minds as to whether I should quietly ride to my solo work today and quietly return to isolation later. I can’t tell whether I’m just cautiously doing my bit to stay out of trouble or am going to be the victim of a slew of shaming... so I totally see where you’re coming from.

And yes, of course you should delete Facebook. For your own sanity, do it yesterday!

I'm not sure what they are, but I read it somewhere. So I did a fact thing
https://fullfact.org/news/what-can-mayor-london-actually-do/