Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Im not trying to diminish the seriousness of it

My Nan 93, went out twice yesterday once for milk, once for bread. Today has already been out for batteries and a prescription.
This is despite phone calls everyday since Monday to tell her not to and asking if she needed anything.

To find that out I would have to read his article, and I am not going to give him the clicks.

I made the mistake of reading the first one posted a while ago (two weeks back?) He had understood some of the information he tried to synthesize, wildly and dangerously misunderstood other parts.

He is a hit and miss grifter, trying to build an audience off the back of a global crisis, and best avoided.

Take a break from the news, I think it tends to build that feeling.

where you work at now my friend?

How you holding up?

Not made one, spoken to industry, he obviously intended to do but hadn’t when he claimed it.

I misunderstood you. I assumed that if he lied about speaking to industry then by definition they wouldn't be making ventilators for the government.

99+% of us will still be around

I guess that's the thing in flux at the moment, depending on how we act.

Just went be what was written in the guardian which explicitly said cycling banned, and jugging curtailed.

jugging

Is this meant to be jogging or juggling? If the latter, with it all the way.

I think it’s jogging, decisions on the other are still up in the air

Ha, the French would never threaten the circus arts.

Jogging.

(coronavirus, not COVID-19)

COVID19 is the the latest corona virus and is therefore like a hoover of vacuum machines. what are you talking about?!?!

They had another corona virus!??! How do they know?! SARS? MERS? Did they get them YEARS ago... We managed to irradicate them didnt we?

Ed, talk sense plz

You know you can get ill from other types of viruses?!

The current Corona is COVID19... I dont think there is another version out there.

Take a break from the news

Tbh I’m only really following the Covid threads here, in between running errands for all our elderly neighbours and looking after a three year old.

It’s not so much the fear of the disease that’s spooked me, it’s the breakdown in society when supply chains fail, unprecedented unemployment and an already burdened NHS is taken beyond capacity. I’d love to think we all come together as a society but that’s exactly what we can’t do. Pray for vaccine I guess.

Tbh I’m only really following the Covid threads here

They not the most measured news source.

Coronaviruses are a histological group of related viruses.

There are several subfamilies, one of which is the recently discoveredt SARS-CoV2. Another one causes ~15% of all common colds.

So it's quite possible to have an illness cause by a Coronavirus that isn't SARS-CoV2, unless it was meant that they were Positive for SARS-CoV2 but asymptomatic and therefore not suffering from Covid19.

This is what's getting me too. If we're all housebound for literally a year, what's society going to look like at the end of it? Will western governments have passed laws about and got used to telling people where they can and can't be?

It's the timescale of it that's such a headfuck.

(Obviously the personal human cost for a huge proportion of the world goes without saying).

Do you have a link to that in the Guardian (the cycling, not the jugging) ?

https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/cyclisme/coronavirus-les-sorties-velo-strictement-interdites-rappelle-la-ffc-6785776

The theory being, I think, that exercise is allowed only when done close to home (jogging within a radius of 2km from your home) and when you go out cycling you are obviously going much further from home. I think it's partly to counter the "that's not fair, if if they're allowed to do that, then why can't I do this" argument, plus just the general logic of not doing things with potential for accidents, and therefore not putting more pressure on medical services.
Not being selfish, basically.

So fancy talk to say they had the flu?

Yeah, that seems to be what was reported in the guardian as well (I should have clarified that I was talking about leisure cycling, not work/deliveries/etc.). It's on page two of the news ticker right now:

France has tightened the rules of who can go out by banning sports cycling and demanding runners and walkers limit the distance they take from home to a maximum 1-2km and 20minutes.

FFC
(@FFCyclisme)
📢 Face à l'épidémie de COVID-19, la @FFCyclisme demande à tous les cyclistes de faire preuve de responsabilité en évitant toute pratique à l'extérieur durant cette période.

Un seul mot d'ordre : "Sauvez des vies ! Restez chez vous !"

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March 19, 2020
A statement from a cycling body reads: “Faced with the COVID-9 epidemic the French Federation of Cycling asks all cyclists to show their responsibility and avoid all cycling outside during this period. Remember the rule: “Save lives! Stay at home!”

The cycling rule is thought to apply only to those cycling for sport. Those using their bikes for essential shopping or work journeys - and carrying the correct papers - are expected to be allowed to continue, subject to policing.

French government spokesperson Sibeth Ndiaye warned the confinement rules were likely to be tightened further.

“We see quite irresponsible behaviour, people going to beach to the park. We have to tighten the restrictions. the fines are now 135 and their application is strict; Those who haven’t the right to go out, who don’t have their justification document, who overstep the regulations will be sanctioned,” Ndiaye said.

Those who haven’t the right to go out

hmm

Hoping someone out there conducts a study on the safest method of transport during a viral epidemic for essential workers in urban environments. Has to be cycling, right?

Not single occupancy cars?

Has to be cycling, right?

Depends on how many drivers crash into you in their frenzied pursuit of toilet paper.

This morning I did another ride to compensate for the lack of commuting. Same route as Tuesday - Peckham -> E&C -> BF Bridge -> Fleet Street -> Westminster -> Oval -> Camberwell -> Peckham

Vehicle traffic about half of what it was on Tuesday, probably even a bit less. Reminded me of an early Saturday morning. Taxi ranks still overflowing with hopeful cabbies but a lot fewer of them driving around. Bus numbers looked lower and those on the road were not busy, no one at the bus stops. Still lots of joggers but in contrast a lot fewer cyclists and peds too. Almost nothing open.

Queues at Rye Lane Iceland, Boots and Superdrug were twice what they were earlier in the week with deeper security presence to match. Cafes closed and fresh fruit veg places much busier. Lots more tension in people's faces too, understandably.