Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Fuck knows

Yeah I can't find a simple defn either

Dunno, but I know a continuous c*** when I see one

bloke down the pub reckons it’s a few things -an effect of Brexit (we’re outside the trading bloc, less insulation from shock) and the gov handling of the crisis generally (which is, I suppose, also a consequence of Brexit).

https://mobile.twitter.com/pierrebri/status/1240524375079694336

Hope it’s ok if I have a bit of a rant.

I work in a bike shop in at a retail park in the north of England, it has been a fairly quiet past couple of days but I’m struggling with the stress I’m feeling due to seeing people shopping for clothes and eating at restaurants. We had plenty of people in the shop yesterday simply wandering about, no interest in buying anything, and leaving again, once customer looked to be in his 70’s and in a wheelchair was wheeled into the store by who I presume was his granddaughter, he had his grandson sat on his lap who had a persistent cough, they walked around the store about about 15 minutes touching grips and pulling brake levers then left. There was plenty more people doing the same thing, they have a complete lack of empathy for the staff at these shops.

My biggest fear is that now they are closing schools the Retail park is going to get really busy again and I won’t be able to cope mentally (I suffer from sever anxiety). I have my fingers crossed for a closure of retail parks in the coming days.
Hope everyone is staying safe.

That’s insane. This is a new virus with a higher mortality rate than seasonal flu, and there is no vaccine.

Same situation here - I'm happy that we are open and we can sell people stuff they need to keep them on the road, but now is not the time for people to be wandering round tyre-kicking because they are WFH and are being driven mad by the kids or whatever.

Also a little bit more respect for retail workers personal space at this time would be nice

A few bike places in London have become 'by appointment only' for the duration of this.

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/03/18/helen-macdonald-covid-19-what-is-a-new-and-continuous-cough/

Hey, I'm a categorical cunt.

Little bit of a data joke there.

I'd hope we get to stay open with a skeleton staff/workshop facilities as It seems like the best form of transport and fitness in all this, but I don't think the government are going to be so sensible

NHS definition: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

New: means a cough that you've not had before, or if you usually have
a cough, it's got worse. Continuous: means coughing a lot for more
than an hour, or 3 or more coughing episodes in 24 hours.

It is more of a stratification measure of severity beyond that. If you're coughing properly for an hour- you will not be doing anything else.
The fact that 34% have sputum, and that cough is absent in 32%, and that fever is absent in over half, means that we are likely missing a huge caseload.
(Which is just a problem for statisticians- these people are low risk)

Thanks, it's a bit woolly.

Anyone else having issues with there parents? My Mum currently heavily guilt tripping the entire family to see them on mothers day (both 60+, dad with Asthma) My brother works in care and is surrounded by germs all day, other brother had his wife and baby written off with a bad cold all last week.

My mum also couldn't understand why a family friend was self-isolating (her mum is going through chemo atm)

@Velocio I think if you write something then record yourself as intended to be legally binding this would be sufficient in the absence of any other legally binding document

I guess it depends what they’ll respond best to. My dad who is on his way back from Aus was all it’s just like a flu.
I know he responds to numbers so just showed him the age risk table.

Edit if it’s personal accounts share some of the Italian Drs accounts?

Tube starting to shut down

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/19/london-tube-to-close-many-stations-because-of-coronavirus

If ever there was a time to try a no deal Brexit, now would be it.

“Sterling seems to be driven entirely by investor sentiment,” Mr Bunning said. “I think it’s partly down to the fact that having left the EU, the UK is now less insulated from shocks and less closely linked with this massive economic bloc.”

Paul Jackson, global head of asset allocation research at Invesco, agreed that Brexit had left the UK economy in a compromised position.

“If you are already weakened by an underlying condition (Brexit, in the case of sterling), then the risks are greater,” he said.

Markets are worried that the UK hasn't done what everyone else has done in terms of isolation/lockdown, and our economy has been weakened by Brexit (FDI drying up, exports drying up, companies relocating some or all of their business to the EU), and now Boris is, whenever he is asked, stating that he won't extend transition - so the UK, uniquely, will have a second huge economic shock, just as it's trying to recover from 9 months of COVID-19.

Baby and bath water.

Not so much my folks but my sister’s in a terrible bind. Her mother in law has terminal cancer and had planned seeing them with her kids for quite a bit of the summer. Both her and her husband are teachers so they’ve been fairly well exposed to people, I guess they’re going to isolate for two weeks and then begin minimal contact.

it's a bit woolly

Glad it's not just me who has been thinking that.

This has caused tension in our house because other half is convinced there's absolutely no way I might have coronavirus because I haven't had a fever/continuous cough and therefore hasn't been taking self-isolation as seriously as I think he should. I'm not saying I do have it, but I do feel there's no way I can rule it out.

I know public health advice has to be written in generalisations, but it's not low risk if people go around potentially spreading the virus because they don't have the two communicated symptoms is it?

AUD has been falling steadily against US for 2 years and dropped right off just now.
Still not shit enough for me to storm in and buy that town I wanted but maybe it'll make the government think about how it makes its money.

I'm not saying I do have it but I do feel there's no way I can rule it out.

Me too, cannot rules out the possibility, we may have it and show almost no symptom.

I've been flattened for over a week Ed, I was last at work a week ago and have had some pretty scary chest tightness, horrible sore throat, aches, bad headache, runny nose etc. It's the sickest I've been for quite a long time. But zero fever and cough is occasional, so technically I can go out and infect all the people I like!

That would be dumb of course and luckily my employer is responsible, so I've been told to self-isolate and logged as a suspected case.