Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

That must be stressful, hopefully there will be more guidance coming soon. Can you WFH? Might be worth calling nct , I remember them being pretty helpful

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Where is this ?

Yes, I'm in a fortunate position where if I have to I can WFH for a few months and manage the mortgage, etc on just my salary.

Really just need some clarity on what the vague advice means in reality.

Hancock’s statement in parliament https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/controlling-the-spread-of-covid-19-health-secretarys-statement-to-parliament?utm_source=a3b4e231-54dd-4f8d-8ff3-e6035513de4c&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate

The Coronavirus Emergency Bill should not worry me but trust is so hollowed out that it does, completely

Not banning events means the company/venue cant claim on insurance so are screwed?

Friend is a landlord of a pub and the government has fucked him by not ordering to close, but stopping his customers going. If he closes of his own accord then insurance won't pay out.

Swiss miltiary getting involved. Seems the border shut down is more serious now than "hey where's your passport"

https://www.thelocal.ch/20200314/swiss-army-is-preparing-to-deploy-to-assist-coronavirus-fight

I’m not sure insurance would pay out .
It may be by saying avoid and not banning a visit Pubs and clubs have enough folk turn up to tick over

Why would they deploy a care battallion to secure borders?

TBH, even if government does cancel stuff, I don't see people being much happier. In most of Europe, restaurant/bar owners are shitting it about the future. Two told me that unless they can turn their bars into some sort of delivery service they're dead in the water.

Germany has a half trillion euro rainy day fund that is going to be used to support affected businesses. We don't have that, sadly.

they already are gathering.
http://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Videos/2020/03/Coronavirus_nitrogen_dioxide_emissions_drop_over_Italy

OK- heavily re-edited post below:
On a somewhat morbid thought experiment I wondered what the average weekly death rate in the UK was.
Happily so does the ONS (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales)

After some initial mis-reading of the dataset (please excuse me)
The 2019 figures put the average weekly death rate at c 10200
Of this c 1400 are attributed to respiratory causes. This varies as a percentage of death throughout the year, with the average % being around 14%.

Make of it what you will. I don't know if its even a helpful statistic.

Just what I was wondering. The article says they're mobilising the medical units in the armed services to assist in providing medical care. Absolutely nothing about borders at all.

I did wonder this.
I also wonder if we need to go to extremes of people on streets with thermometers and straight to isolation like China, maybe we’ll accept it more if we’ve taken more steps to gradually get there.

Regarding insurance - I am highly, highly sceptical that the insurers would be able to pay out if every single bar, restaurant, pub and cafe in the country claims a few month's worth of expenses. Sure, we save some pub owners from unemployment but then all the insurance companies collapse and their employees all lose their jobs. And then whoever is first in the queue for a payout survives, and the rest go bankrupt anyway.

There aren't any easy answers

Just been told some family came into contact with someone that's now died, they are stuck in for the next 14 days now. One is a manager at a big Tesco, another senior staff at a Co-op so loads of people are going to be a mess by them not working and if they extend the quarantine or whatever to both the shops staff no idea what happens then. By friday they will have gone insane from staying in and I'm sure stupid as fuck elderly relatives will have attempted to visit.

Cuuuuunts

https://twitter.com/RTUKnews/status/1239584711346769920?s=19

As I understand it some policies have named virus that can be claimed for.
This is new no?
So unlikely to get a payout
Better some avoid the pub , some get the virus , just not all at once .
It won’t be Boris that killed 500,000 it’s the virus .. it’s the bloody virus .

Our last jobs of the month have just canceled, none covered by insurance. That's 9 shooting days and 25-30 odd edit days canceled so far in February and March. I've still got shoots booked on April 8th / 16th / 22nd but just waiting for those to cancel, too. Zero income since January added to being defrauded by 12 odd grand, basically all our cash, only a small percentage of which was returned by HSBC, a couple of months ago. 👍

Going to take up poaching tomorrow.

Oh, almost forgot about my asthmatic (tick) dad in GICU in Southampton after a surgery gone wrong yesterday(tick) who, unrelated, had not that long finished chemo (tick).

Good start to the year.

That’s just sad.

I cum 'ere on a plane

Why's dere mayonnaise on my chips?

I got kids

The Belgians definitely don't... we don't in Luxembourg either but at least it's a very small, relatively well off country. Isn't stopping small business owners having to consider firing their staff at the moment though

The message being promoted by UK Hospitality the past two weeks that insurance will pay out is incorrect. Same goes for other trade sectors.

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