Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Everything going on now is to stop a huge wave crashing the limited resources of the NHS. Death rate would be much higher than 1% if it somehow 'caught us unaware'. Have you been watching much of the news? (Genuine question).

So my girlfriend is pregnant (and a teacher). From that press conference it sounds like she's meant to stay at home for the next 12 weeks, did I get that right?

I'm sure the main thing that Johnson's really worried about is that he'll have to delay 'Brexit'.

I'm 98% sure Brexit will be delayed by at least a year. And no one will even notice.

Some very wishy washy provisions from Boris there. I still get the impression he wants Covid to sweep through the nation wiping out a huge chunk of elderly who he considers a burden on the state.

The messaging has been my issue lately. I can't see how people make sense of what instructions to follow and don't end up confused by it all. Has a feeling of 'on the hoof (ness)' which doesn't instil confidence.

Some very wishy washy provisions from Boris there. I still get the impression he wants Covid to sweep through the nation wiping out a huge chunk of elderly who he considers a burden on the state.

And, as was pointed out last time this conspiracy theory was shared, a huge chunk of his voters?

Only problem with that is that he's then wiped out the core Tory-voting bloc; but then in typical Johnson fashion that might be a problem left for his successor...

And the (understandable) omnipresence of virus news is definitely depressing in a generalised way.

Genuine question that concerns me: having followed both German and British developments, with similar numbers of verified cases, the U.K. has already 55 deaths but Germany only 19? I am aware that the number of positive tests is not really a meaningful number given how few people are being tested in the first place.

That’s what I understood, although he seemed to say that pregnant women were included in the vulnerable people category ‘as a precaution’. I think impact on pregnant women not yet fully clear.

Very concerning the lacking clarity, just found out that my partner is pregnant too

Not only that but the data on cases is out there publicly, and he'd obliterate his party's and his own credibility for a generation if our mortality rate is significantly higher than anyone else's. A stupid conspiracy theory.

Imagine the campaign - "your party killed half a million old people" - there's no way back from that

the U.K. has already 55 deaths but Germany only 19

Because death rates don't increase incrementally and the virus has yet to peak in either country. There are going to be good days (not many deaths) and bad days (spates of deaths).

But if you're wondering is there something we could have done to prevent the deaths that Germany did, probably not.

Regarding the comment a couple of pages back on the hospitality industry and insurance, the fact is the vast majority of businesses, including the hospitality sector, have no insurance to fall back on.

Since SARS, insurers rewrote commercial insurance policies to define the specific diseases they would provide revenue protection cover for. They will generally only insure risk they know about and can quantify.

A couple of insurers still provide a blanket coverage for any Notifiable Disease, but usually with a capped limit of between £25k and £50k.

A couple more insurers have other badly drafted “Public Authorities” revenue protection extensions in their wordings that might allow a successful claim via the backdoor. But the majority of insurers exclude disease as a trigger under this extension.

mazzeltov!

Yes thanks that was my question

Bet you they're waiting for the Easter break to kick in. Then they'll leave them closed.
Easter can't come soon enough for some.

Thank you, very kind

Work emailed out the PHE health advice earlier and stated no intention to close our offices, Boris now seems to of said that should happen but obviously everyone has left for the day, not sure a 5pm update is the best timing for businesses

Imagine the campaign - "your party killed half a million old people" - there's no way back from that

"Yeah, but Labour would raise taxes."

100% on complacency although not sure how much of that is down to “we’ve no idea what to do” (which I get but it’s no reassurance when these are our leaders).

Completely irrelevant and focusing on the wrong things, but can you imagine comments from central government if local government acted like this.....

I guess the not locking things down but instead advising people to avoid them is the behavioural science nudging stuff kicking in to ensure compliance by easing people into it. Fascinating if so.

Maybe partly that, but I suspect it's mainly £££...

Yep. Not sure how this ties in with things like midwife appointments, scans and NCT.

Also not sure what I'm meant to be doing. Pregnant woman isolating but the person she lives with not seems to have some flaws.

We are 35/6 weeks along and assumed the same. Better go panic buy everything...

Should I be off too to stop bringing it home to them?

Can't help but feel that we'd have been better off if Covid-19 had gone completely undetected.

Just... no.