Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

I assume they're open because they often also sell food?

No, fags, papers, public transport tickets and that sort of merde.

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I'm isolated at the moment - have worked at home since Wednesday last week. Literally haven't left the house and neither has my wife.
I won't be leaving the house until Friday when i'm seeing my Grandma. Neither I nor my wife are exhibiting any symptoms.

As far as i'm aware, the current government guidance doesn't prohibit or recommend against the above.

It's also worth pointing out in the broader context that there's very little anyone can do to protect people like her in this situation. She's unable to comprehend the situation in any great detail and wlil probably continue to go outside to the local shop due to her short / medium term memory loss. She's also unable to care for herself fully and so has a carer in at least 4 times a week so there's no way she'll be entirely isolated at any point...

A lot of oral swabs were showing negative when anal were still showing positive.

Seemed like there’s a strong possibility a lots of my stores will closed/be sold, and we are to offer a different position, thus avoiding offering redundancy.

Might only have a week left, maybe two.

I see. Sorry, assumed she was either independent or in a care home.

I do worry for the old. Our neighbour is a nonagenarian in top shape. Still drives, does own shopping and cooking. Saw him in a packed tiny supermarket yesterday, rubbing shoulders with other customers.

All the evidence so far says the more you're exposed to it, the more risk you're at. Hence big events not actually being that risky, despite all the panicking on here and elsewhere. You are much more likely to catch it from family and close friends, unless you're a medical professional.

I agree it's possible to test people and not be at risk with the right PPE but we've had posts here about NHS workers wearing badly fitting dust masks so I can't see that going well. Either way it would mean critical PPE and resources being diverted to people who don't really need it. The estimate is that up to 80% of us will get the virus, it just doesn't seem viable or the best use of our (scarce) resources to me.

it just doesn't seem viable or the best use of our (scarce) resources to me.

This. Marc Van Ranst is now urging members of the (Belgian) public who´ve hoarded masks to deposit any unopened packages at their local hospital´s reception desk.

I think she needs to self isolate.
I think you need to self isolate.

If you paid by credit card just call your bank and get them to do a chargeback now, saves any fucking about.

@Chalfie I am, currently at home, luckily i commute on foot... don't care what 111 & the Uni policy is, i feel i have a duty of care to my students to not do anything to potentially expose them....

Hands up if you reckon the government will u-turn and close schools and maybe even lockdown after the COBRA meeting this afternoon?

Or will be carry on with the Keep Calm and rampantly spread the virus method?

Place your bets!

I'm with you, stay away!!

I hope not if it is genuinely the best thing to do.
Political pressure isn't always helpful.

2nd option seems more likely ofc.

I popped to tescos this morning around 5am (couldn't sleep) and it was rather quiet and not too bad. But it was heart breaking to speak to an old chap who said he'd avoided the shops for around 5 days now due to how busy it was and the fighting he'd read about.

Yeah, but that's a bit of a dick move isn't it? It's not like they're being dicks about it (yet).

Missus at home now having a day off but now officially WFH too. Except her idiot company make staff leave laptops at the office... so she has to go back to get it. Forward thinking there.

Shit, didn't factor that into the toilet paper rationing..

obviously I don't know the severity of your Grandmas condition but would it help if you printed up prominent signs and put them on doors to inform her of what she needs to do?

IMF about to mobilise $1TN

The biggest 'bail-out' ever

Essentially being offered store credit to a store with questionable longevity is probably edging towards dick move, but I had the same reaction initially. My only experience of chargebacks is on the vendor side where you get stung with a fee and accused of fraud. I've had a customer do that because they changed their mind and wanted to cancel their (already shipped) order. Took ages to sort out.

I hope for you guys there will be mandatory isolation, hotspots in UK are mainly in Greater London and risking such a concentrated and uncontrolled outbreak is pure silly.
5 days here (Treviso, Veneto region) since every public place except supermarket and pharmacies are locked down and still we haven’t seen the curve getting any better.
In the other hand, original hotspots that were isolated more than 14 days ago are reporting very few new cases everyday.

Stay at home please.

My bet is that they will limp through to Easter. One of mine is on study leave in any case.

I think that is likely the plan, get to Easter and there is a two week holiday anyway

Anyone front line able to report the sort of capacity ICU is currently running at?
Given the next deaths are well in the pipeline can't be too long before that is over run.

I have LPOA for my 91 year old aunt , who lives alone (widow, no children, no family nearby). Her health and dementia has deteriorated over the last few months to the point that she now needs 24 hour care. I arranged live-in care in November, which has been getting more expensive month on month, mainly due to the fact that she is up around 7 times a night, which results in extra cover having to come in. It's now costing around £12K a month.

We had decided, reluctantly, that the time was right to move her into a home for better, safer and more affordable care - there is zero chance of arranging that in the foreseeable future.