Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

The best I have seen to answer this is a bit is here. So median is 5 days, 95% show symptoms within 5.8 days. Also, from what I have read you can be contagious before you are showing symptoms so it's sort of irrelevant if you have a temperature or not.

the closure of all places “non essential” to public life including... discos.

This is truly the darkest timeline

Also, from what I have read you can be contagious before you are showing symptoms so it's sort of irrelevant if you have a temperature or not.

Yeah, I wondered if your temp went up before anything else or something as I remembered all those vids where they were checking temp from early on but I guess normal temp doesn't prove anything.

Well, it's the Mrs' fam so I'm leaving it up to them. Kinda seems like they are wanting to go with 'carry on as normal' which probably wouldn't be my choice but what can you do?

It would be cool if the virus killed off everyone who say "chavs".

Corona hoarding and voracious?

Kind of feels like the old “we survived 2 world wars, we ruled the world, we’ll survive Brexit and we’ll survive this corona. We’re Great Britain” etc etc

Blame it on the boogie

Kind of feels like the old “we survived 2 world wars, we ruled the world, we’ll survive Brexit and we’ll survive this corona. We’re Great Britain” etc etc

As heard on the train earlier, old guy in his early 70s with that attitude... 'Ive lived through SARS, Aids, etc. we'll be fine!'

facepalm

I know an old guy who goes to chuch all the time(think he goes to 3 each on different days) and asked him what they are doing as typically chuch community is going to be full of old people his reply was something along the lines of "oh, they have stopped all the communion and wine, told us not to shake hands or anything and even said to some of us pray at home so we don't get sick but what are you going to do, you have to go to chuch".

Sweden's approach doesn't seem to be too far from Britain's. Some social distancing measures like banning big events, but schools mostly open and not even trying to test every suspect anymore but trying to slow it spreading. Finland is on the same path, but a bit behind, schools and everything mostly open, working from home and other social distancing adviced, big events banned, toilet paper sold out.

Fucking Peston drip-feeding privileged gossip.

Anyone here having direct experience with the NHS because of coronavirus yet?

A friends wife has been ill for the past 7 days now, high temperature, persistent cough, some shortness of breath. They’ve been in contact with 111 multiple times over the course of the past week and been let down with call backs, told testing was not going to happen because she hadn’t been to any of the named countries on the list (they had just travelled back from Mexico via Heathrow). On Thursday they were told to go to an out of hours doctor - pretty mind boggling decision what with the contagious potential and contradictory advice online - but they followed the advice. Dr there said it could be corona but couldn’t send for test based on her travel history.

Now tonight they’re waiting for an ambulance as the shortness of breath has worsened.

According to this graph, France is currently running about 8 days behind Italy:

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Thursday night (12th) - Closure of all schools, colleges and unis, advice for everyone that can do to WFH. Urged to limit social contact, limit public transport use, implement social distancing.

Popped into Valence this afternoon (Saturday) to pick something up. A sunny Saturday afternoon, the park and playground was full of parents and kids, the shopping centre was full of shoppers and teenagers hanging out, cafes were busy, groups huddled around tables at outdoor bar terraces, etc.

Saturday night (14th) - Closure of all bars, cafes, restuarants, nightclubs, and non-food shops.
Prime minister says that "individuals have not been taking advice aimed at limiting the spread seriously enough."

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Covid-19-in-France-All-restaurants-bars-cafes-non-food-shops-to-close-until-further-notice

Really daft question, mobile phones must be a massive health hazard right now. I know no one uses their phones to actually call these days but still.

You should arguably clean your phone more often than your hands or am I wrong here?

I've been wiping down my phone if use hand sanitiser when out and when bcak from work. Not sure how effective it is though.

it can survive on your phone in the same way it can survive on any surface. So not indefinitely, not even for that long, but it could be there.

Clean your phone like you would clean any surface you'd be concerned about.

Matt Hancock explains next steps via The Telegraph

https://twitter.com/AndyMRoberts/status/1238964937290113031?s=19

Not may folk share phones though

Tories back tracking on herd immunity at least that’s what they are saying, probably because it throws the age group that voted for them in huge numbers under a bus.

But they could easily recontaminate their hands after washing them.

But if it’s come from you in the first place you’re already carrying or infected?

It makes sense to keep it clean , but I’m not convinced it’s a reservoir .
Less screen time is also good

Ah the Tory party publicity magazine.

It's meant to protect the more vulnerable groups - but this isn't being communicated clearly (if you're at risk stay isolated). Also yes you're right - vulnerable doesn't include average health 50s and 60s...

I would think your phone is just a reservoir of germs- slowly building up during the day from things you have touched followed by touching your phone... potentially 🤷‍♂️

I had a high fever, very phlegmy chesty cough type flu when I came back from two weeks in the Alps and a week in Utah at the end of January. It was unusual in that I never normally get beyond a sniffle, but this really laid me out- me Julie would get home to find me wrapped in the duvet on the sofa unable to do very much at all.

Does this line up in such a way that it was plausibly COVID-19, or am I not so lucky?