London Air Quality - Pollution

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  • Your local authority, ( a London Borough?), should have an Air Quality specialist.
    You might find it hard to find out they are through the switchboard.

    Email all your Ward councillors,
    and any Cabinet member who looks like they have a responsibility for 'The Environment',
    (be careful and check, 'Environment' for some councils means managing the contracted-out domestic waste collection).

  • Targeting individual parents probably doesn't work. The better answer is School Streets, which Lewisham seems to be thinking about.

    (the even better answer is 24/7 road closures and massively reduced car use, but not gonna happen in Lewisham)

  • There's a gentleman in London who campaigns on this, asking drivers to stop idling. The abuse and threats he gets are astonishing:

    https://twitter.com/LittleNinjaUK

  • 1 parent had her phone grab out of her hand and thrown across the road
    when she wanted to take a picture of the car after driver refused...

    https://twitter.com/thesupermummyth/status/1238064368983695361

  • @matteroftaste
    If you're in Lewisham borough I would like to work with you because it boils my piss in se26

  • I like that scheme. It means that work on engaging behaviour change is moot. Unfortunately it appears that only schools with a proactive travel plan are likely to engage:

    The school I’ve been trying to get a response from don’t appear to be working on one, I see no evidence of engagement with modeshift or sustrans to prove me wrong either.

    Frankly, the most effective way to get people to stop is simply to ticket them. Stationing a traffic warden at drop off and pick up has been incredibly affective in the past, after all what they are doing is not legal. Again, as a civilian, organising this has proved challenging.

  • +1 in SE6

    if you are coming over tomorrow we can discuss @matteroftaste

  • While it's great that the campaigners are taking this on, signing petitions about planning applications is a complete waste of time, except for a campaign to build up a mailing list--but then, they might as well say that's what they're doing and skip giving people false hopes by means of the petition.

    Petitions have absolutely no force in planning (a quasi-judicial process). All that matters are planning guidance and other possible legal impediments. I hope the campaigners are also busy finding these, or they'll go the way of so many campaigners I've seen who turn up to planning committee waving their petition, only for it to be completely ignored.

    All that said, I support their cause, as I'm very strongly opposed to the spread of these delivery services (stable door, horse, etc.). They undermine local retail and cause immense environmental damage not so much by building distribution centres but simply because people use them.

  • @chalfie @amey into it. I’ll do some digging and get in contact.

  • The school have been pretty on it... Apparently the delivery firm are looking at getting the power supply upgraded so they can run electric vehicles. Presumably vans. Not perfect, but fingers crossed.

  • Air pollution from petrol and diesel vehicles is likely to increase mortality from the novel coronavirus in cities, public health experts have warned, AFP reports.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/16/coronavirus-live-updates-us-cdc-events-europe-lockdown-uk-deaths-australia-france-italy-spain-update-latest-news#block-5e6f78b48f088d7575594382

  • Public pressure and boycotting can have an effect. The social media campaign is gathering pace, and anecdotally I have seen tweets from many local customers saying they will no longer be using the company.

  • “The air is definitely much healthier,” said Prof James Lee at York
    University and the National Centre for Atmospheric Science, who
    analysed the data. “[Tiny particles and NO2] are the two air
    pollutants that have the biggest health impacts on people.”

    “These are big changes – pollution levels are the equivalent at the
    moment of a holiday, say an Easter Sunday,” he said. “And I think we
    will see an even starker drop off when the weather changes.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/27/coronavirus-uk-lockdown-big-drop-air-pollution

    People can hear birdsong in north London where before it was constant traffic noise.

  • I've had bees flying round my balcony which I've never seen before

  • Bees and butterflies.

    To be fair we've had plenty of them before but it's nice to see them out again.

  • it's been a very mild winter, we should get a few more crawling / flying things this year

  • mild = wet

  • Charging their phones innit.

    Honestly a lot of them think you need to run a 100kW engine with a massive lead acid starter battery brimmed all the time in order ot charge their latest fablet. Tried to enlighten a few that "you know you can fully charge that thing ten times and it won't affect your starter battery", usually get abuse or a snide comment about how they had to go through the trouble lf buying a chip of ebay to override the factory stop start.
    Saying that a few of the usual suspects outside school over the road from us have stopped doing it. Still park on the zig zags though

  • What happened to the clean air? Traffic down to record levels but still...


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  • Bromley air pollution has actually got worse. Presumably because of all the suburban bonfires.

  • It's the same round here in Crystal Palace too. I have written to my local councillors and they've asked for me to give specific addresses where the smoke is coming from, but that's missing the point. We need a public information campaign, not neighbours telling on each other.

  • It is worth writing to your local councillors. I got a positive response to my email below.

    "Dear Mr. William,
    This request has gone to our borough control centre – I am awaiting a formal response, but your points are well made.
    P"

    My email:

    Dear P
    Thanks for raising this with the enforcement team. I have passed on some information to them. However I feel uncomfortable giving the addresses of neighbours who might know that it was me who wrote to the council. It is important now especially not to create tensions in the community.
    The problem of garden fires is widespread, and I think needs a broader approach than the targeting of individuals. We need to stop fires happening in the first place, rather than contacting them after the event. There has been smoke in Crystal Palace Park and on Westow Hill in the last few days.
    The council often put flyers through the door with information on refuse collection, and there is highly visible signage regarding the new speed limit; could something similar be done regarding garden fires, wood burning in general and air pollution?
    Thanks again,
    Best wishes
    William

  • It's getting worse.


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