Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

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helpful:
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

20 seconds of that is further hand washing.

Why is the death rate so low in South Korea?

Nadine Dorris has got it! She has been hanging out at Downing Street.

Not to wish ill on anyone, and I do mean anyone. But would be interesting to see how well Boris would get on with 'taking it on the chin'. .. that said, he'd get exceptional private healthcare and probably be fine and then the masses of brexit drones would be all 'Boris smashed coronavirus, what a ledgend!'.

Not many people with underlying conditions.

Do you have supporting data?

Google "ATO squat toilets" at your peril. Those facilities look posh though, will need study trip to Melbourne before bathroom refit. Air fares should be nice and low now...

Isn't it also that they've been testing far more people, so they're picking up the asymptomatic cases as well?

100 cases in London...still super low risk. But I expect to see a few of these...

I read that South Korea has provided the best testing regime of all affected countries - even making stuff like drive through tests available.

I don't know how quite how this would have affected the death rate (or at least the death given infection rate), but I understand that they were able to track and slow the spread very efficiently, even without mass lockdowns.

Article here, there's likely better ones available:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/asia/south-korea-coronavirus-intl-hnk/index.html

yes, I'll be very surprised if it's handed on significantly to the individual borrower anyhow.

This seems the best explanation. A better funded, less overrun healthcare system that has the capacity to test more widely, stop the spread and provide care earlier would logically reduce the death rate.

Testing, they’re picking up more cases that might not get picked up in low testing regimes so have more identified infected. Does it mean more infected.

https://twitter.com/IndexMacro

Not sure how reliable but this person is tracking testing per capita

I agree - it's the potentially vunerable people in my family that I'm worried about at the moment. But saying that I don't even know anyone that knows of anyone whos got it.

South Korea 2000 tests per million people
Italy 386
U.K. 199
US 1

Cost of test ?
I know the answer: free = south korea.
$$$$ = USA

https://qz.com/1810869/covid-19-quarantine-leads-to-surprise-medical-bills-for-us-family/

You can get tested for free in the US, but a positive test lands you in hospital and your insurance might not cover your bills. If you have insurance.

Emergency situations such as these really thrown sharp focus on problems with certain systems, and the effectiveness (or not) of government.

I think the US is in serious trouble.

Ran out of condiments?

Only costs a couple minutes.

"plz pass the Mayo..." "have I got a story for you!"

Grim reading. The US seems to be a ticking timebomb for coronavirus. I could be wrong but there's very little in place to stop the spread and when it starts to spread there's no safety net.

US healthcare really is the wretched god-king of late stage capitalism

Trump has proclaimed himself as the saviour of the US people - as with all autocrats he is the only solution to their problems.

Unfortunately that means when there is something that Trump can't 'fix' (or at least pretend to fix) they have to try and change the facts so it doesn't seem so bad. All this at the cost of not properly informing or trying to protect the citizens that they represent.

It is scary how quickly the US has fallen to this level.