Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

“Wash hands for 20 seconds” = “Yeah I can spare 20 seconds, I’ll do that” and you end up with at least some hand washing happening. “Wash hands for 40-60 seconds” = “That’s fuckin ages, I’ll not bother washing at all”.

Precisely. Try slicing some habanero, "washing" your hands for 20 seconds and then having a wank. Not a good idea, a friend tells me.

Gloves seem to be very effective at making people not bother woth personal hygeine.

Just watch at any street food place where they take cash with their gloves on.

If you pick up a dog shit using a gloved hand and then touch your face your hand may be clean but you've still got traces of dog shit on your face.

This sounds great if you imagine it being delivered in an action movie.

I glove up for some tasks at work and they are pretty effective at keeping me from touching my face. I think.

Probably a good part of that though is that wearing gloves is not the norm for me, I suspect if I wore them more then I’d slip into bad habits.

Maybe you’re on to something, I’ve picked my nose after cutting peppers and it put me right off putting my hands anywhere near my face for the rest of the day.

We have a winner. Spray your pockets with pepper spray and you won’t touch your face and can save time on hand washing.

Having been involved in triage many times- it’s never as simple as the math would like it to be.
I don’t envy my ITU, medical or A&E colleagues at the moment.

Not 100% what the next month or so brings for us as surgeons.

However, I think- despite the bed situation looking bleak from the outside(and inside)- that the nature of the NHS puts us in an excellent position for better outcomes.

On a side note I think the government and exec have missed a vital opportunity to train a huge potential workforce (med students, nursing students, FY1s), as well as increasing physical capacity(4 floors of a hospital I used to work at are built and empty- for example)- in the period since containment to Hubei had passed.
Fire-fighting remains our mainstay, and lessons must be learnt from this.

Woken up feeling much the same, maybe a tiny bit better.
I'm totally torn between the 111 online questionnaire: don't isolate
and
what seems sensible and will (should) be in force in some manner countrywide over the next 13.5 days or so to take the strain off the health service: isolate

I'm thinking my compromise will be to get to work this morning, get my laptop and work from home from now for a week or so while it all develops.

Struggling a bit generally with self-isolation tbh. Working from home is grand, but missing birthdays and HDITP I'll be gutted about.

Or putting your contact lenses in - I almost scratched an eye out after putting a lens in after chopping chillies...

Bake little oat pancakes, whole oats for extra traction

Supposed to be going to a gig in a council owned venue. Checked online and zero info about corona on their site.

Really should be cancelled, shouldn't it?

We are (meant to be) going to a drag show in a theatre on Friday.

Mrs m_v is still dead keen (it’s her that’s into drag and the performer isn’t in the uk much so it would be a shame to miss it) but I’m not so sure.

That´s it, I´m refitting the bathroom. Going with a space/water/bog roll-saving walk-in shower/squat toilet combo with a post-Great War-era soap-on-stick fitting screwed to the wall pointing up because reasons. Also, Finnish arse shower lower down for when a full-body shower n shite is not called for.

I work in a lab and am very conscious when wearing gloves not to touch my face as my gloves have the potential to have nasty chemicals on them, I suppose a gloved hand touching money wouldn't quite have the same effect.

As a househusband I also find that wearing gloves some of the time helps you stop touching your face. I tend to wash hands thoroughly when I come home before liberally applying greasy hand cream and then putting rubber gloves on for cooking, cleaning and bike fettling. This also prevents your skin from cracking when out and about.

I'm totally torn between the 111 online questionnaire: don't isolate.

Don’t go then.

It’s not just the risk of COVID, but the risk of vulnerable people catching what you have.

Of course far easier said than having to deliver it front line. I suspect it would need military/ police presence.
My perception is the numbers might be so vast that in someways it becomes simplified.

“ As a househusband I also find that wearing gloves some of the time helps you stop touching your face. I tend to wash hands thoroughly when I come home before liberally applying greasy hand cream and then putting rubber gloves on for cooking, cleaning and bike fettling. This also prevents your skin from cracking when out and about.”

Best post ever on LFGSS.

You see, I feel this needs some clarification. "slicing some habanero, "washing" your hands for 20 seconds and then having a wank" makes it sound as if you've stopped mid food prep to engage in a bout of onanism, with the intention of returning to finish cooking one your self-lust has been sated. "dinner's going to be ready 3-4 minutes later, love"

Or maybe that's exactly what happened, who am I to judge?

We are not at the cancelling stage of concerts/theatre/events yet. I'm sure they will be soon but personal choice currently. I've got Orbital @ Printworks on saturday and will still be going.

Maybe it was to spice things up

I'll get my coat.

Mate has a ticket for this, but is a bit nervous as lives with 75 yo Mum who has respiratory issues... very low odds/potentially high impact.

Maybe best for him to hang about at the back or side and not get fully into the mix?

Or maybe that's exactly what happened, who am I to judge?

I´ll ask my friend...