Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Or those who have no access to any kind of sickness or holiday pay and cannot afford to self-isolate, which is a much bigger problem in the US

. In the US, even those most fundamentally opposed to helping people who cannot afford to pay are going to wake up to the reality that unless one cares for everyone, one exposes oneself to greater risk of infection.

Are they really though? You’re giving that section of their society a lot more credit than I would.

A much bigger problem in the US maybe, but this thread here has not exactly filled me with confidence about the UK either. And tbh, my own workplace is also not particularly chill about sick leave.

Ironically, airlines are currently still flying empty airplanes place to place rather than lose their slots. The expense of this, plus the general stupidity/wastefulness is quite alarming in itself...

I'm wondering if they wouldn't be better grounding the planes and turning them into mini ICU isolation units...

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fgachy/to_those_that_live_in_italy_how_is_the_situation/

Well worth a read...

Italy is most likely a few days, possibly a week ahead of other nations in its infection rates. So it is still most likely worse there than other places.

I fully expect other countries to soon be in the same sort of boat, though. Switzerland went from 1 to 100 in a week, and in about 4 days is now up to 375. This is representative of the growth factor that we saw in italy. Obviously, the population is smaller, but so far it seems to be a few days behind Italy in terms of infection rates.

Fundamentally though, the problem is that many places simply aren't engaging in lots of testing. We know this disease is highly contagious. We know that it has an incubation period of around 5 days.

If we look at Spain, for example, it went from 100 infect to 1000 infected in a week. This is the same rate (roughly) as in Italy, between the 23rd and 29th of February. In other words, Spain is about 10 days behind Italy. I would expect Spain, by the 20th of March, to be sitting roughly where Italy is today, i.e. somewhere between 9k-10k infected.

Things are probably worse in Italy than elsewhere, but it's a question of "days until shit hits the fan elsewhere" more than "this problem will not be as bad in other countries".

So is it a bad idea to go to paris this weekend on eurostar?

yes paris is a shit version of london with even ruder people and more dogshit

🎵 my office block 🎶 just got evacuated 🎵

^ I don’t own this office block. I just work(ed) there.

I wouldn't imagine its any worse than travelling around London on the train.

Thanks for clarifying.

I prefer to take comfort in the figures I found, just because they're bigger...

After years of mocking everyone here as hypochondriacs, and despite the noticeable decline in the overall state of France's healthcare system over the last 5-10 years, I can now at least profit from the (relative) abundance of medical equipment and facilities in place.

What is it with dog shit and Europe?
#brexit

Went to the gym yesterday and the hairdressers today :(

I'll give them a call

yes paris is a less-fun-but-less-sterilised version of london with more-direct-and-less-apologetic people and a shitload more dogshit

FTFY

I might be driving over in a audi a2 that i might buy to do the journey.

alright calm down lonely planet

Paris metro is considerably more grotty than the London Tube.
But with less brake dust in the air.

Meh, Paris was fine last weekend, and you are all over-estimating the dog poo problem. Eurostars were 2/3 to 3/4 empty both ways. I came back with a cold though.

https://www.thecut.com/2020/03/smurfs-gather-in-france-break-world-record-amid-coronavirus.html

A friend (who work for the NHS) told me: at least they can recognize them when hospitalized..

But look at all the space.
https://youtu.be/b_9IAUE7jaI

Was on the tube on Sunday evening, sitting opposite a seat on which someone had obviously vomited/pissed/shat/all three and which was covered by an official clear plastic protective square with a sign saying not to sit there. A woman gets on, takes a looks, sniffs and sits on the next seat (ignoring any potential seepage), dumps her heavy bag on the offending seat next to her and proceeds to squirt anti-bac gel on her hands. We're fucking doomed...

“Cold”

That's because you weren't wearing a scarf.
France = scarves whenever the temperature is below 20 degrees.
Indoors or outdoors.

Email from work:

Due to the developing situation with the coronavirus outbreak in the UK we have decided to hold an extraordinary staff meeting where we would like to discuss contingency plans and staff welfare.

Yeah. An all staff in-person meeting... Whhhy.