Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

'Fresh' is an interesting term.

One of the reasons that aeroplanes are such germ incubators is that the air is dry and dries out sinuses so removes one of the ways the body use to stop germs spreading. Also look at the age of planes and if you are flying on a plane that still has ash trays....then look up how these planes get their 'fresh air'.

Interesting point. One that will be discussed for many years to come or until the service life of the aeroplanes comes to an end.

No way. Must be satire!

The film was gash and amazing Israel propaganda.

You watched a film about the zombification of most of the world, in which one detail is that Jerusalem's old city holds out behind its walls for a few days before a bunch of noisy ultra-orthodox Jews spoil everything and your takeaway was "Zionist Propaganda"?

This thread is on a subject where the latent bigotry triggered by the apparent origin of the virus in Asia has been a thing to discuss, and here you are adding your mutterings about transgender and Zionism like some Proud Boy who unwittingly wanders into the middle of a screening of BlacKkKlansman and starts rooting for the white folks to find the traitor.

It's Lynx, isn't it?

No. I don't think that is what Howard said. He said the air is drawn from inside the engine, which is true for most planes. I said that the 787 intakes air from in front of the engine. Unless I misunderstood.

the air in aircraft cabins is much fresher than in your home or office

I'd also take issue with this statement!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-51633897

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-may-have-been-in-italy-for-weeks-before-it-was-detected

How can you contain something if you don't know it's there?

Maybe for UK air but my link was to SCMP so air quality in HK which for the last six months has had an unhealthy dose of Chinese made tear gas in it. That’s on top of all the shit drifting from across from Shenzhen.

You are the one mentioning zionism, and throwing in transgenderism too. Where has that come from? Think you need to look a long hard look at yourself before calling others a bigot.

The version of the film I watched had the Jeruselm gates letting everyone in, with the right wing government and how it treats the Palestinians that was a bit far fetched for me. But as you mention the singing, all the people were singing not just the Hasidic Jews. But calling me a bigot and a Proud Boy (in what ever fucking patoir you prefer)...why not just stick me on ignore and do the same in real life. Your levels of being two faced really are at a new level.

It is lynx, no capitalisation.

Not sure if anyone's pointed this out but worth a read

Suspect there could be confusion. This is a nacelle

So the outside air is drawn in from somewhere in the whole unit.

Er, well yes. I know what a nacelle is.

Where's the confusion? I don't understand.

That's where most planes take cabin air. A 787 takes cabin air through this instead, thus eliminating engine contaminants.

Howard - fresh air arrives via a vent inside the engine nacelle
Stonehedge - Apart from on the 787, which draws fresh air in from vents in front of the engines

Both get air for the cabin from the nacelle. 787 doesn't share air from the jet intake. EDIT: I was wrong it is from the fuselage on 787 not the nacelle.

The 787 air system was to be the improvement in cabin air quality as there was/is a court case about harmful toxins.

Ok m8. I think.

Sorry for the derail.

How often do you think they change hepa filters in airplanes and does this effect amount of bacteria kicking about?

Don't think it is a derail as it seems to counter the article that cabin air is really clean.

If you read the article, the more the hepa filter is used the more efficient it gets!!!

It wasn't there though was it (in Italy)? It entered the population somehow.

My point being, it's different to the wubei strain, has been circulating for some time and no one knew.
How would you isolate? How would you contain?
I'd love to hear.

Both get air for the cabin from the nacelle. 787 doesn't share air from the jet intake.

I suggest that you fact this. The 787 is a bleedless design in order to improve thrust efficiency and cabin air quality. It's one of the biggest selling points of the plane. Increases engine efficiency by about 30%, or so Boeing claim. I even posted a photo of the cabin air intake, tellingly about 20 feet away from the nacelle.

Anyway, to reiterate my point from earlier, cabin air quality sucks on all planes but sucks less on a 787.

Edit: the 30% figure is nonsense as I described it. It reduces power taken from the engine by 30%, it doesn't improve efficiency by that much overall.

Edited my comment, as I was wrong.

Your photo shows the fuselage, didn't see the photo until now.

Absolutely no idea of Boeing's claims stand up to scrutiny, but the marketing blurb says air quality is better and it sounds logical to me.

#planechat and not one “can I fire a frozen chicken at it” comment. Pffft.