Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

They'll be on Ebay before you say DHL.

Yes

Share the wine, biscuits and germs and pray you don’t get it

You raise a fair point on speculation and I will be more circumspect.

Heading over the the Day Z Thread to get some hints as to how to survive the coming apocalypse

People are already panicking af here in Hungary, in a lot of grocery stores you can't buy any canned food or flour, even at the countryside, geez. Thankfully our beloved government media is also very helpful with spreading the panic, but hey, I guess this virus is going to be the perfect pretense to finally close our borders! Really curious when will it come to that George Soros is behind the pandemic...

Didn't I read or hear this week that one reason Italy has got so many cases of the virus is that everyone is (normally) touching/kissing/hugging.
That's probably a strong factor of how it developed so rapidly. I'm not sure they know who their Patient Zero is.

There's no evidence of that at all.

It's much more likely that it entered the community due to a containment failure.

Pls define containment failure.

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May of been posted already but this is one of the best things I’ve read on the current situation.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

I've still got a KOM I set in London in 2012 on day 1 of the Olympic Lanes ;)

May of been posted already

4 times now, I think.

So much better than the film.

With a bit of effort one could use the er, spread, of that link to map out who has who on ignore.
Mind you, it raises the question of whether self imposed quarantine increases the spread rather than limits it.

Johan Giesecke of WHO claims that one should refrain from all non-essential air travel as you will be breathing recycled air for most of the flight, increasing the chance of inhaling someone else's germs. Mind you, this is not the official stance from WHO yet as far as I can tell.

Kind of feels relevant to me as I have an 11 hour admittedly non-essential flight coming up on Tuesday. I don't have any underlying conditions, but I have a slight sniffle as I write this so my immune might not be in tip top shape as I get on the flight.
I have no real fear of the Covid itself, but like someone wrote further up the thread I am properly scared of ending up in a hospital abroad and then catching an MRSA infection.
I got one such infection last summer and it fucked up three months of my life :-/

So... air travel... yay or nay?

Yay

Coronavirus: how to lower the risk of infection while flying – and remember, the air in aircraft cabins is much fresher than in your home or office https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/article/3050706/coronavirus-how-lower-risk-infection-while-flying-and

Ta

It’s something like 50/50 recycled and fresh air in a plane. And with some constant fresh air, it means the air inside the plane is completely refreshed a few times over an hour.
Apologies if this is what’s in the above link, I haven’t clicked it

Amazingly the fresh air arrives via a vent inside the engine nacelle.

Wonder if that saves having to heat it so much

Apart from on the 787, which draws fresh air in from vents in front of the engines.

Generally speaking the air is cycled less on a 787.

That is what Howard said, do you have Howard on ignore?

There's a bit of a debate going on about how safe it is to use engine bleed air in planes. Plenty of reports of illness which cabin crew blame on contamination from the engines.