Atlas Mountain Race

Unlike you. Looked at it in WKO or TP or Garmin Conncet yet? See where the 0kph chunks are and match a few to the map.

Were there lots of switchbacks where GPS might not have distinguished movement?

Or you were just busy picking rocks out of your tyres or grinding off valves?

I do wonder about that. I had some GPS issues, but not huge amounts.

becasue of the file size and length that is hard to do visually. I need it in CSV format and could then look at it.

WKO can show raw data - do you still have a copy? I do, if you want to use it or maybe you send the file and I send you the times where I see 0s?

There's probably some online converters too.

So I have (in hours) accounted for

1: 0.5, 0.5, 3 - food, food, sleep
2: 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5 - food, food, poo, food
3: 1, 0.5, 3.5, 1 - tyre issue, sleep, checkpoint
4: 2, 1, 1 - sleep, checkpoint, food
5: 0.5 - sleep

Which is 16.5h. Still 5.5h unaccounted. Which perhaps is not unrealistic. It demonstrates that even I mess about too much, just considering accounted time.

hippy: coffee, cake, pub, bar, pizza, coffee, pub, pizza, chat with local, bar, pizza. ride time: 2hr ;)

5.5hrs over 4+ days doesn't sound unrealistic to be "lost". Did you take any photos? Do you have to record video for sponsors?

No I didn't do either. I had 10 photos, of either the wheel or a wonky sunset.

Maybe I need 2 stopwatches. One for individual stops, and one running to total overall stopped time, so i can be aware of it and ashamed.

Edit: Just thinking, perhaps when I was walking it captured 0kmph at some points, when steep. That could account for maybe 2h,

I'm trying to share the highlighted sheet back to you but Google is having a fit.

There doesn't appear to be much stop time on first rapid eyeball scan.

Ill code something and pull all the 0's out. when i have time

Actually, can you see it? I've just applied a filter to remove anything above 0.2kph

There's definitely no big chunks of stop time so it's probably reporting low speeds as stopped.

So, have a look at the low speeds and then see how much time around each there is.

Last 200km. At CP3 he had approx 5h on me minimum.

Names: Avg speed / total time / moving time
Sofaine: 14.2 kph 18h20m 14h30m
James: 16.6 kph 14h55m 12h30

https://www.strava.com/activities/3112618650

Generally I was 1 kph faster than sofaine. Say that's over 75 (as wouldn't have been so first day - but also faster in the end - approx. maths), thats around 5h reclaimed. I gave up 6h sleeping and maybe 1h at longer stops, I lost 1h to CP1 on first day, total lost is 8h. So delta 3h advantage to him. Given I was 2h20 behind that's about right.

It makes the case than you're not always faster by not sleeping. I lost time elsewhere really. Ie first day + sleeping long first night when i should have ridden through.

How big a gap did he have on you going into that final 200k?

How does the first 200k of the race compare?

See my edit i was doing as you typed.

Generally I was 1 kph faster than sofaine.

Maybe, but he pretty much took it lying down. :)

Sorry thats over my head, what do you mean?

Only one poo and then half an hour for it? Hope you finished the crossword.

Nah that was just a special stop. Normally I don't stop unless it's multiple reasons but this one was an EMERGENCY. Plus it was on a beautiful cliff edge, so I remember it well. Super location for a shit.

km calc stopped time
who sofaine james
211 0.55 4.15
173 1.49 0.42
216 1.2 4.20
206 1.54 3.00
137 3.94 1.60
206 3.82 1.50
total stopped 12.54 14.87

in hours and decimal hours

pulled of his strava so it's not precise.

Look at the typo. :)

OHH that was too good. My brain is still too slow.

Rides 1000+km and 20000m of elevation in a handful of days while barely sleeping ..."I mess about too much" 😂

Rides

Races - the subtle difference

True. I can just about get a grip on how being in the mid-pack / back of these races might work, but be also draining. The front runners and how they stretch it, I can't wrap my head around, especially this race.

#marginalgains in ultra racing

I think @skinny needs to consult with Dan Bigham.

Aero ain't much at 15kph