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On or off road?
For, eg, tcr lots of UK riders use the frames you list. They would be good options. Some people do custom Ti nowadays. You also see a lot of specialized roubaix, canyons, etc. Basically, whatever you fancy.
definitely clearance for big tyres and the world has gone to disc brakes, through axles, etc.
People do ride the tcr on cheap bikes though, anything that fits and is well maintained will do, but like you say, not too aggressive a position.
frank9755
Hello hive mind. I want to get into ultra cycling as a way of fundraising for some charitable causes that mean a lot to me. The only bikes I have are either race bikes ie aggressive, or too shiny, so I reckon I can get the old n+1 going. I’ve done a bit of research and popular options seems to be either steel custom, or stock from fairlight, mason definition, or kinesis RTD/GTD. Any other ideas? Not interested in getting too spendy, and I have components I can move across so should be able to go down the frame / frameset route. Thanks!