• Points based systems lend themselves to abuse anyway-not hard to get into Aus or NZ if you have an HND in Joinery or Hairdressing as they have been classed 'in need' but if you get offered another job there's no real way of forcing you to do them once you have your visa and get offered another job.

  • When I used to work for NZ immigration there was a points system. People had to prove they had worked (iirc for two years) in their respective field to get a permanent or indefinite visa.

    Not sure how it works in oz or how the UK will operate.

  • I've a friend working over there as a joiner on a temp visa (no experience prior) right now but as soon as he gets qualified (two years) he gets to apply for a permanent visa. Then he has no intention of continuing to do it as the pay is pretty shit-that's the kind of situation I mean really.

    Seems you might fulfil short term need but will still probably get fairly low experience workers who are gaming the system. Short of paying people more to do these (actually highly skilled and tough) jobs I'm not sure what the solution is...

  • Depends on age, qualifications, potential income.

  • UK already has all of this in place.

    It takes 5 years. I was at one employer, I called it visa prison. The day I was out I went freelance.

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