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When the Tories tried to bring in compulsory ID cards we all pushed back against it
Yeah, as a forrin I always saw the left and liberal resistance against the ID card scheme as a collective case of the genetic fallacy; if the Tories want it it must be bad.
A centralised citizen registry would have been a perfect baseline against which one could measure any number of social ills. The ones that immediately come to (my) mind would be homelessness and unemployment. In the UK, it seems perfectly possible for a homeless person to gradually fall out of every registry and eventually not exist in an official capacity at all.
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A centralised citizen registry
Yeah what could go wrong.
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Yeah, as a forrin I always saw the left and liberal resistance against the ID card scheme as a collective case of the genetic fallacy; if the Tories want it it must be bad.
A centralised citizen registry would have been a perfect baseline against which one could measure any number of social ills. The ones that immediately come to (my) mind would be homelessness and unemployment. In the UK, it seems perfectly possible for a homeless person to gradually fall out of every registry and eventually not exist in an official capacity at all.When they tried to bring them in I would've argued vociferously with you on everything you've said. With the benefit of hindsight, I agree with it all.
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if the Tories want it it must be bad.
Blair favoured it and also encountered push back. The core opponents have been against it no matter which party is in power.
it seems perfectly possible for a homeless person to gradually fall out of every registry and eventually not exist in an official capacity at all.
True. For some people, being largely off the grid and their interactions with it not all being joined up is part of the point, or at least something they prefer. I don't think you'll find the core of protest against ID cards among rough sleepers, but you won't find universal approval of the idea there either.
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This is something I've had a bit of an awakening on recently. When the Tories tried to bring in compulsory ID cards we all pushed back against it - Orwell, big brother, etc., and they backed away. That felt like a good reason at the time.
However those cards would've enabled quite a lot of the nonsense that Farage and his ilk talked, especially the stuff about 'open borders' and 'not knowing who's here' and so on, to be challenged effectively.