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  • Afaik it’s not road legal, but so long as the can doesn’t say “not for road use” then you can claim ignorance. Don’t tell the insurer, claim ignorance (do they know what it had on when you bought it??)

    Heat and cool the area, spray penetrating lubricant, heat and cool x10. That was the advice in case my header studs were seized. Fortunately they weren’t.

  • Bikes aren't emissions tested so I can't see how it would change road legality. As long as it doesn't end up over a legal decibel level.

  • Decating bike may need some ECU work as it may confuse the ECU.

    Look up plus gas.

  • For cars not bikes.

  • Personally, I wouldn’t want to pollute more than is necessary, though the cat delete would mean a performance boost (but is it necessary etc etc). There was an article or few from a decade ago stating that NOx and other emissions on average measured higher from motorbikes than cars. But I’d poo-poo that considering the successive scandals of fudged emissions tests by the car manufacturers.

    All the same, the Euro 5 article is quite interesting.

    https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/features/bikes/euro-5-emissions-what-they-mean-to-motorcycles

  • NOx aren't issues on motorcycles, hence why most bikes, even two strokes, pass NOx emissions for the Ulez.

  • Articles like this, is what I was referring to.

    https://www.wired.com/2008/06/motorcycles-pol/

    Which references

    https://www.latimes.com/news/la-hy-throttle11-2008jun11-story.html

    That appears to state yes they meet criteria to pass the tests, but that doesn’t mean they are environmentally friendly. That’s the States not London.

  • The article raises a few interesting and valid points, such as how long the bike has to meet regs. Using Cali rules is interesting as there was a time that air quality (certain pollutants? in the air )going in to an engine was higher than that coming out of the exhaust.

    Would be a more interesting topic to chat about, when I have better concentration levels. Also pollution is not just the exhaust...

    If you are really bored, there is lots of information about motorcycle emissions that the EU collected some from FEMA and those against motorbikes. It is very long, boring yet informative.

  • Plus gas is easiest to get in uk (wilko soemtimes sell it), but have found "kroil" is very effective. Suspect its just acetone and atf (pb blaster) and it stinks, but so far have yet to find a bolt that it hasn't at least helped it come out.
    But patience and prep is your friend, exhauand manifold bolts are often a pita. Scrape as much crusty bits in that might stop the bolt turning, wire brush or wheel it, oil it over a few days, heat it if needed, shock it, consider using an impact screwdriver or impact wrench, have found a quality impact wrench (got a super powerful facom impact which tbh paid for itself in its first few days of use) loosens bolts with much less chance of rounding or snapping

  • What do people reckon I’ll need to do to get a scooter (Yamaha Vity 125) that’s been sitting for 14 months running again? New battery definitely. Reckon filling it with fresh petrol will be enough for the fuel system?

  • Remove and clean carb, may be even replace

  • After battery, and carb clean, consider high quality fuel (for the detergents) like Shell V-Power, and a large bottle or two of Redex. This, plus two or three occasions of carb cleaning (once by the mechanics, then twice by me using carb cleaner spray) is what got the Suzuki GN125 running consistently well.

    All the critics may have their right to say it regarding Redex and snake oil, but I genuinely saw a difference after a few refuels of Shell and Redex. Quite certain over a few hundred miles it helped clear any engine gunk.

  • When, where and what entery? Looking to hit up a few this year if I can.

  • Mon 4th May, Bedford Autodrome for £119. The sooner you book the cheaper the price ;)

  • Is it a general or segmented skill levels? Very very tempting. Only went to one last year and the itch is strong.

  • @Chak It's beginner, intermediate and advanced levels as opposed to open pit lane. Forum track day?

  • It's gotta be done. Let me just get these and the front end sorted out and I'm game!


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  • Well, sods law and all. Just went to get a second opinion on what I suspected was cam chain noise and none of what the Mechanics said was inspiring. Probably a loose cam chain with fucked crankshaft bearings.
    Looks like some hard choices will have to be made...

  • Well whatever happens sounds like passing on a track day is probably sensible. Fingers crossed it gets sorted with minimal spendage.

  • Reckon an eBay motor might sort me out for cheap and spend a weekend sorting it out.

  • Looks like it’s Daytona time afterall

  • Don't use that mechanic again.

    Sv tensioners fail, it is common fail on the sv engine. I'd check the front tensioner as that is the that usually goes. Easy to id big and little end noise.

  • First bit I've read that's more about the bike side rather than pensions, really depressing to hear what happened to Sweary Bob:

    https://www.superbike.co.uk/article/norton-was-it-a-fraud-from-the-start

  • Completely agree. Mechanic sounds dodgy.

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