• I heard some bad things about the touchscreen being really crap, did they fix that at all?

    Not really, no. There's a reason why they're still knocking out the 820s at significant discounts so long after the 830 was released. The prices are tempting, but in my book it's a temptation still worth resisting.

  • Thanks, this is exactly the kind of pragmatic opinion I need! I'll have to keep saving for an 830 or Fenix.

  • If it's just going to be used for training intervals and following breadcrumb grx routes, it might be worth taking a look at the 530. No touchscreen (a good thing), very reliable, same form factor as the 830.

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