EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Perhaps the damage won't be forever, and in 20 years when the younger generations outnumber the minority of "but the old days" and "them furrin's" and "remember when the UK was great?"

In twenty years time we might be talking about the good old days with them foreigners & when the UK was great, & it'll be talking about the time we lived in before we left the EU.

Still can't believe Labour fell for the obvious tricks to 'take no deal off the table' & running with a GE. Talking about an 'Austrialian deal' is just codified no deal as well.

The lib dems, conservatives, and SNP had enough numbers to make an amendment to the 2011 fixed term bill, which was a straight majority rather than two thirds of MPs. So they either had to call for an election (as they previously had done) or be pushed into it.

Bear in mind as well that people on working visa are now tied to their employer for 5 years and so pretty easy to overwork and abuse in other ways.

When I went through the system, the 5 year work visa was issued to the person, not the company, but with the company instigating the application on behalf of the person. Within my first 5 years here I managed to change jobs twice and each time my employer took on the cost of transferring the sponsorship. (~£1500 at the time). Now the system may have changed in the intervening years, but I don't think it's the indentured servitude model you think it is.

Has anyone ever seen Rishi Sunak and Sasha Baron Cohen in the same room at the same time?
Just saying...

What does it say? She blocked me on Twitter for critiquing her interview techniques

Ah ok tx maybe it is not as "bad" as I thought?

Somebody I was talking to came in for a job 2 years ago, they said it is OK but not what they expected. They told me they cannot change jobs until they are here for 5 years.

But maybe the problem is then that nobody wants to pay for the sponsorship transfer? I can ask them what is going on.

Either way you are reliant on somebody else doing this for you, rather than finding another job yourself. It sounds a bit unnecessary to me, it is not that you get much dole money (or at all? maybe you get nothing at all w/o IRL) anyway.

It's scary how easily the opposition got mugged.

The video clip is worth finding elsewhere.

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I can’t believe people are blaming labour for calling the GE, they had no other option in the end, the Lib Dem’s and SNP backed them into a corner.

Revisionism to suggest labour were trying to avoid it but lib Dems forced them to. Lib Dems and labour both thought they could make gains, they're as much to blame as each other

Either way you are reliant on somebody else doing this for you, rather than finding another job yourself. It sounds a bit unnecessary to me, it is not that you get much dole money (or at all? maybe you get nothing at all w/o IRL) anyway.

It helps that my role was pretty specialised so not too hard to the get the visa in the first place. For all job changes I was up front about the need to transfer the visa and no one batted an eye. It was only £1500 and I saved them a fortune in recruitment fees by being referred by previous bosses.

One of the conditions of the visa are that you are not entitled to public benefits. You are ineligible for anything apart from the NHS.

Jesus H Christ on a pony. Here's Javid pretty much admitting that the government still have no idea why they've 'done' brexit or what benefits there are. Now asking the public for their ideas...no doubt vacuum cleaners and bananas.

Chancellor Sajid Javid will use his Budget next month to launch a “Brexit red tape challenge”, inviting members of the public to propose ways in which Britain might diverge from the EU rule book.

https://www.ft.com/content/4b0d8310-4353-11ea-abea-0c7a29cd66fe?segmentid=acee4131-99c2-09d3-a635-873e61754ec6

Presumably to create populist headlines to distract from the areas where they no doubt know exactly how they're planning on diverging: worker's rights, environmental regulations, food standards etc.

Yeah. Because the last time we asked the general public for some feedback on government policy that worked out fucking great.

There should be a campaign to swamp the public consultation with suggestions for stronger environmental/animal/worker-rights controls

Citizen panels, not partisan, informed by experts, Irish referendum style, in all parts of the UK (not just south of England/London) could come up with sensible ideas and a compromise.

It was tried before in one part of England, turns out people really aren't as partisan as reported. BUT...if it just asking random people a question, with no good sampling on responses which means the responses aren't representative of the UK as a whole, and no good information, yeah not expecting much use.

Not linking as only express / DM are reporting but

The UK has taken a seat at the World Trade Organisation for the first time after Brexit - promising to help fix the troubled body. Britain joined the WTO as an independent member on Tuesday having previously attended only thanks to its EU membership.

What that will mean, we have to wait and see.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/07/panicked-eu-goes-brexit-meltdown-britain-finally-has-upper-hand/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1581088345

Wow

I didn't realise that the Telegraph's main climate change denier is also a Brexiteer.

What were the odds etc

Has this been resolved yet?

Has this been resolved yet?

Has this ever been funny?

Nope.