EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

So good... All those Brexit pricks spending six hours waiting to get through customs in Benidorm... Like I said, delicious... 🤗

I don't think any of that will amount to very much.

Yes...very fair appraisal of the situation.

Don't count on it...Jews in Germany
said similar hefore Krysrallnact...this is the tip of the iceberg.

Just read that there is a growing momentum for Greece to veto all UK/EU trade deals that does not include a provision for returning the Parthenon marbles.

Snigger

But we haven't finished looking at them yet...

https://youtu.be/x73PkUvArJY

Go to see them now then.

They are safer here and more people get to see them, also there was paperwork showing that we could take them away. ;)

Not seen the clip of the leaver voter, moving to Spain earlier than he wanted to because of brexit , and getting Spanish citizenship for his family making sure his kids have all the opportunities.

Now try and make that shit up.

Subtitles FOR FUCKING ONCE.

Meanwhile in Northern Ireland it dawn's in the hard unionists that Little Engerland's Conservative party doesn't love them (like in 1922 as Carson said) and the irony is immense.

With Boris' sabrerattling over "we don't need your rules" I can only see NI needing to align with some EU standards anyway, or agriculture here is doubly screwed. Too much going back and forth to ROI. They don't like that either.

Meanwhile nearly all manufacturing here is gone already, and Wrightbus lost 800 jobs thanks to a corrupt ex owner and the new owner is...Bamford of JCB. I hope he stays out of NI trade policy politics. The town he's in is a DUP stronghold (and widely mocked as a hole within NI...it was nice 20 years ago but really deteriorated...)

With special buses WTO / Australia or Canada style deals are probably sorts ok its a low volume premium good. For agriculture though...

Meanwhile no bonus xenophobia on brexit night in NI. Just Fleggers.

England currently getting a some what unexpected kicking by the French in the rugby. Can’t help but think theres a brexit metaphor right there.

That's not a joke though. It's a oblique threat to anyone that doesn't speak the Queen's English.

‘the the Queen’s English’ apparently.

Deep.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51281916?fbclid=IwAR3tBcym0wxHkD_1HKNSsIbogS_1CkRbFSSXfd1OOGSHtayQWRCZiSF4Cgs

BBC article in brexit Vs remain views on other countries/cultures and the UK, and how to try to heal the divide.

Completely skips the behaviour of politicians, maybe they deal with that another time.

I can't see a route to any sort of reconciliation tbh, Brexit has pushed us down the US culture war hole and I don't think we're going to come back out anytime soon.

Politicians love that... all about the divide 'n conquer shit innit.

I think you may be right. I think that the only predictions that I can confidently make right now are (i) we will have to compromise (for trade deals etc.) relative to the "all the benefit and none of the cost" vision that Brexit was sold on and (ii) people that voted for Brexit (and the press that pushed it) will be largely unable to own those compromises as inevitable failures of Brexit

It's going to be very difficult to bite one's tongue when people are complaining about problems that lots of people saw coming a mile off.

More worryingly, on Brexit day Liam Fox said something that basically confirmed what a perceptive friend of mine noted before the referendum, namely that the Brexit camp is irreconcilably divided between globalisers and protectionists. Fox, clearly in the globalising camp (as are all the Brexiteers with any actual power), said something to the effect of "a lot of people who voted for Brexit are going to be disappointed." Other than being an admission that the whole thing is a fucking sham and that we're now on a path to a UK that is actually wanted by a very small minority of the population, it's very worrying because it suggests that there will be a huge number of disgruntled people out there who will continue to blame the EU, foreigners and immigrants for a few years, before someone charismatic and fashy steps forward and actually shows them that they were sold a pup by their own government (and of course he will make Britain great again if they only vote for him).

I am both sad and fucking worried.

I miss my old life already.

We've embarked upon an experiment to change the UK model from one that was generally social-democratic (anchored there by the EU, despite neoliberal urge from member states politicians and the UK) to one that is based on the US, crony-capitalist system where for e.g. the government subsidises industries and companies but people die for lack of medical treatment, and any right (maternity, holiday, sickness) is seen as an impediment to profit and will be signed away in the pursuit of competitiveness.

The interesting part is, I suspect, going to be watching how this is sold to the UK - do we need to really build up the EU to be a demonic organisation determined to destroy the plucky UK which leaves us no choice but to reduce the UK holiday to 10 days, an totally delete working time protections?

Also:

Danish fishermen Brexit humor:
Fisherman 1:
I caught a UK shrimp today.
Fisherman 2:
How do you know it’s from the UK?
Fisherman 1:
When I emptied the net it rose up and said “I’m a lobster.”

Got a link or remember what TV program it was on?

Just seen a brilliant comment on a Guardian article.

I'm going to start asking all Brexit voters I meet if they would be OK for men to have their right to vote removed if 51% of the country voted for it in a referendum. (51% of the UK population are female)

“Don’t call Brexit voters Thick!”

Okay yeah, like being called traitor is fine.

I can't see a route to any sort of reconciliation tbh, Brexit has pushed us down the US culture war hole and I don't think we're going to come back out anytime soon.

Said to say I think you're probably correct

Swiss women know this pain.