• Being ID’d regardless of age is okay with me - it helps with the ‘banned from one banned from all’ agreement to try keep out the worst offenders. I’ve had my ID scanned in a number of places back when I still had a social life.

    As much as I’m against Big Brother per se, I’m all for a club or bar having ID and facial recognition of anyone and everyone who might ruin my night.

  • As much as I’m against Big Brother per se, I’m all for a club or bar having ID and facial recognition of anyone and everyone who might ruin my night.

    I understand that on a local level but what is the difference between a bar having face recognition and nationwide Police face recognition?

    It is, to be fair, the thin edge of the wedge.

  • Exactly. It’s the grey.

    The difference is the implementation.

    As a victim of assault (in the middle of the day, in a public space) where neither the half dozen cctv cameras, witnesses, security guards knowing and naming the kids, nor police did fuck all to get a resolution, I struggle with these topics. You can have my face in a database but if that information system has poor integration or is badly managed, it’s useless.

    Most face-rec nonsense is about selling our habits, and data, to sell us more shit. National security is a joke. The most successfully implemented human-tracking is for the perpetuation of capitalism, not for security.

    We’re unlikely to reach a police state, but very likely to reach high levels of control through coercive ‘retail’ strategy.

  • I found that a bar insisting on scanning your ID before you go in is a useful way to identify the bars that you don't want to go to.

  • One's a private property so they can do what they like.

    Surely banned persons will just wear New Romantics-style makeup to get around the facial recognition?

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