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how about these? (no personal experience of them)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B07MYV2527/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new
ChasnotRobert
chrismanc
Thanks for the comments both, it's appreciated . I really do need to go any actually listen to some things..... One more question for the forum: for the kitchen I was swaying toward active speakers with wireless connectivity. Kef lsx are too spendy for a background music setup. Any recommendations?