• Cheap and light carbon frame for a hill climb bike - any recommendations, or do you think I'd do better going 2nd hand and known maker rather than unknown crabonz?

    Light, stiff and cheap, I'm looking for. So not asking for much...

  • Light, stiff and cheap

    That's the tester bat signal, isn't it?

  • hill climb bike

    First calculate the time saving you'll achieve by lightening the frame by 2kg, which is about the difference between a very light crabon frame/fork and a common butted steel one from the 1950s or later. About 1s per 100 vertical feet on a 20% slope, a bit less if it's a longer shallower climb. Is that enough to justify the expense?

  • Hong Fu FM066-SL if they still make them.

  • 700c slicks have slightly smaller diameter than 26x2.3" mtb tyres, so consider 26" carbon mtb frames which will be deeply unfashionable (hence cheaper) and should be nice and stiff in the rear, which I think should more than make up for the extra weight.

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