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  • Not sure it's entirely relevant either

    I did enjoy their recent wins in Europe with the majority of the England team...

    And there's the relevance the RFU, potentially, willingly taking advantage of what you call.

    largely well-meaning mismanagement

    And what Ugo Monte calls "financial doping". To take advantage of the core of the England team playing and training together week in week out.

  • Which only brings them somewhere close to a level playing field with ireland/Japan/Argentina/Scotland etc! I don't really see that as a significant angle here.

    The difference of perspective between Venter and Monye is clear - and pretty much the two extremes from which people will view this. I'm certainly not siding with Venter, and without more transparency it's impossible for anyone to take a clear-minded view, although from the perspective of the other clubs in the league Monye's is by far the more reasonable position...

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