Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • New favourite detail channel, probably been mentioned before:

    https://youtu.be/FPLMPILlZTg

    "Eeht's disgostin'. Puere felth."

  • Has anyone replaced their dual-mass flywheel with a single-mass? Did you notice much difference?
    My dmf is definitely on it's way out :(

    edit - Actually, after reading up, it sounds like a bad idea.

  • Some gearboxes /drivelines can take it and its only gonna mildy yank between gears and idle a bit more agriculturally, others cannot take it and it will accelerate the wear in your driveline above what it would with the correct DMF in it.
    Get a DMF if you can afford it, get quality, LUK etc

    My car they use a DMF but they dismember themselves with only a little over stock torque, mines quite a bit more and hoping for even more this year, so SMF or a DMF from an old audi v8 are the only options (£££)

  • Go for the full fat 2.3 aero 265, more of a cruiser than absolute speed, soft suspension, ancient dynamics (came out in like 1997? and facelifted beyond hell). Have one in the family, not built as well as old school saabs, but still better than other GM stuff.
    Engine wise rarely ever go wrong, coil pack get the genuine saab one or go home, ALL others will just randomly misfire and half throw a code within weeks/months, experience of saabs for many years, don't skimp on coil pack cassette.
    Rear suspension has pretty crumby little bushs that go fairly often (likely more down to aftermarket parts not being that good). Budget spending a grand in the first year to take care of all the little things.
    Oh gearbox cables/linkage are very sloppy compared to 9-3 and 9-3SS, might not annoy you but the gearboxs suffer as you are on the brink of nearly money shifting it all the time.

  • Some gearboxes /drivelines can take it and its only gonna mildy yank between gears and idle a bit more agriculturally, others cannot take it and it will accelerate the wear in your driveline above what it would with the correct DMF in it.
    Get a DMF if you can afford it, get quality, LUK etc

    Cheers

    My car they use a DMF but they dismember themselves with only a little over stock torque, mines quite a bit more and hoping for even more this year, so SMF or a DMF from an old audi v8 are the only options (£££)

    That's another thing - I was looking at getting it remapped, but if that means the DMF won't be able to handle the increase in torque then I wont bother :/

  • Do valeo do a single mass conversion. for the vehicle?

    what vehicle?

  • If you got dual-mass to single-mass you'll need to go to a sprung clutch disc. Given that you are changing the clutch disc you can/should look at the clutch assembly to ensure that it's going to take the torque that your engine is going to apply to it.

    I'm doing exactly this - changing out the heavy dual mass for a very much lighter single mass, lightweight flywheel, whilst at the same time boosting the power by a non-trivial amount.

  • Some can and some can't. honda civic (space ship era) with the 2.2 diesel could barely handly themselves stock, a problem thats been fixed by parts suppliers in time but there is the odd old stock part lying around that will slip and misbehave.

    Forgot about sprung clutchs, diesels make very sharp impulse forces into the driveline, DMF and fancy clutchs alleviate this

  • There seem to be more scare stories about DMF to SMF conversions. VAG engine that broke a crank and gearbox damage etc. If there is a valeo smf conversion it will be fine IMO. From Mondeo mk3 2l diesel tuning experience dmf don't like more torque especially if they are a bit older. DMf require a different driving style imo. The DMF ran better when driven at speed for a long period of time, then came back to town driving the DMF got rattly.

    Is the saab rear suspension bushes the reason that they get replaced as a whole unit?

  • Those rear bushes - are they tricky / spendy to swap?

    I'm tempted to just let the car be until it collapses as it's hardly worth anything anymore. But, and a big but, that goes against how I want to look after things

  • I still get a bit excited when I see this parked and realise she’s mine.


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  • Always thought if you park up and don't glance back you bought the wrong car.

  • That’s very true.

  • My old 9-3 had a cracked bulkhead. Something they seem to suffer from commonly.
    Before that I had a (very old) 9000 CSE. Now that was a comfortable mile eater. Such a thirsty fuel guzzler though. Probably worst than the Subaru.

  • Awaiting to hear from the friend that I helped swapped the rear suspension to see why.

  • Thanks top tips.

    Getting auto so that's ok. Manuals dont have much place in fat estates.

    Yeah the 2.3 aero is the one, then a remap.

    They seem very good value for money. Itll be that or Subaru, depending on what I find a good one of first.

  • That's not a dirty car, that's just normal...right?

  • Ace, thank you

  • Probably. I mainly like his accent and the bizarre (to me) level of his cleaning.

  • Oh this is actually a friend of a friend! Really great job done!

    On topic of my vehicular woes I've decided I'm going to be violently sensible and not purchase an old fast shed and just buy the cheapest, lowest running cost car I can find to tide me over the next year ot two until wedding and home purchasing are completed.

    It's looking like I'm going to end up with a c.ten year old R55 Mini Cooper D Clubman.

    70mpg. €190/ year to tax.

    Oh well.

  • How much would my C55 cost?

  • €1,809 for a years motor tax.

    Vrt might be negligible at about €700 to €1200 upon import.

  • Vrt is a bullshit tax applied to every car imported into Ireland and is baked into the purchase price of new cars. Its calculated as 20% to 30% (based on emissions) of open market selling price, as defined by the government.

    That's why bmw 7 series and range rovers are €170k new in Ireland...

  • Always thought if you park up and don't glance back you bought the wrong car.

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