The Vegan Thread

At the Dalston Brewdog now and apparently they’ve made a slight cock up and the Vegan discount mentioned above shouldn’t be accepted at this one as it’s food by Biff’s not Brewdog. They’ve accepted it for our orders today but don’t think they will be for much longer

Everyone needed a Grauniad vox pop on the Greggs steak bake and KFC burger, right?

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/jan/02/fast-food-outlets-launch-new-vegan-options-for-veganuary

The Jordi Casamitjana case has ruled and Veganism is now a protected belief.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jan/03/ethical-veganism-is-a-belief-protected-by-law-tribunal-rules

Well, as I said above, I think this will prove to be a mixed blessing, but we'll see.

And as has been discussed before, the debate about large omnivorous companies doing vegan 'options' and buying from small(er) vegan companies will go on forever. You can change things from the inside out and from the outside in. Personally, I sometimes go to smaller fast food chains that do vegan, but I wouldn't go to McDonald's or KFC now, and while I think it's much better to support small(er) vegan businesses, for some that's not an option--many places don't have any vegan food outlets (yet), or (even in London) vegan businesses may just be too far away on a typical lunch break, etc.

(I haven't even tried the Greggs sausage roll yet; I've never had the habit of getting snacks in bakeries rather than any anti-corporate agenda in this case.)

On the jeans and leather patches issue, PETA did this earlier in the year:

https://www.livekindly.co/peta-levis-leather-jean-patches-vegan/

Cheers. I assume B12 also ends up in the soil because insects die there?

Also in soil from animals pooping where they eat

Nope, B12 is in the soil because of bacteria living in the soil, not because of insects or animal poop.

Here’s a fun video on B12
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/safest-source-of-b12/

And here is a more worrying one
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/vegan-epidemic/

And here’s a mind blowing guy on the condition of our soil.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X3aOQ0N74PI

Nvm :)

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😂😂 that’s too much

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-50986683

Steak Bake. Bland. Needs pepper or something. Wouldn't bother again.

BK have just launched their vegan burger cooked on a meat grill. Prick from Veganuary says smearing a vegan burger in meat juice ‘makes absolutely no difference’.

Had this for tea yesterday.
Filled with potato, broccoli, chickpeas, red onion, fennel, celery, Hendo’s and garlic.
Red cabbage salad and hot sauce.
#notagreggs

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the marks and spencers vegan chicken kievs are really nice

Burger King in plant-based fail shocker
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/06/burger-kings-new-plant-based-burger-is-not-suitable-for-vegans

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-50986­683

That's pretty interesting. In a horrific kinda way. I've never gone looking for footage or imagery from inside a slaughterhouse but I know it's out there and I'm sure my many meat-eating people wouldn't be able to stomach it. The effect on the people working in these environments must be pretty awful.

Ooof. That's a swing and a miss.

I suppose it doesn't matter to 'flexitarians', which is a bigger market than moral vegans/veggies. Maybe they'll change it after veganuary when they realise they're not selling many.

I wonder about their beanburger - it's had the PETA seal of approval in the past (as long as it's ordered without cheese/mayo) - if cross-contamination is something they give zero shits about, do they fry it in a fryer that has meat cooked in it as well?

Making a vegan burger non-vegan... classy!

Currently enjoying many of the new items out for veganuary.

Heck Breakfast sausages are decent and seemingly not trying to taste like meat - contribute toward your 5 a day too.
This isn't chicken, came across them at Pho then found some in the supermarket. I'd genuine concerns in Pho we'd been served chicken.

The 'This Isn't' stuff tastes wrong and feels worse (IMHO).
I quite like Gosh and Heck is ok too.
Vivera has some acceptable products.
Still hard to beat the dehydrated shiitake + smoked paprika trick though for really good textural glory.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-50986­683

That's pretty interesting. In a horrific kinda way. I've never gone looking for footage or imagery from inside a slaughterhouse but I know it's out there and I'm sure my many meat-eating people wouldn't be able to stomach it. The effect on the people working in these environments must be pretty awful.

When I was about 10 me and a group of kids I knew were hanging around outside an abbatoir in our town, just kicking around in the summer holidays, on the embankment overlooking the site.

We got noticed by a couple of slaughtermen and got invited in to watch them electrocute pigs. Obviously morbid curiosity got the better of us, and I guess a bit of peer pressure.

It's never left me, the sight of pigs still kicking from the electrocution being hooked up and slit open. Utterly horrible. The sense of fear in the animals was fucking palpable.

Sorry to be graphic.