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Also worth pointing out that many of those estates have had huge investment and pretty nice with excellent playgrounds, outdoor spaces, etc.
But this, when I read it it this am, sound a bit like "I don't understand, Islington is rich, and those estates look nice".
I just wanted to highlight how grim it can be.
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Absolutely agree. I guess I just wanted to point out that a lot of them are a long way from a) where they were in the '90s, and b) a lot of the places I noticed in Hackney in the '00s. Possibly sampling bias multiplied by anecdata.
Sort of #notallestates I guess.
Right but it was the claim that the majority of residents live in housing estates which surprised me. Especially given how densely covered it is with terraces which are largely houses or converted flats, not to mention new apartment blocks.