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  • Yeah fair point well made. 9/10 I’d have made that same decision already - all my bikes are 2nd hand for example.

    Was more wondering about any empirical arguments of one machine over the other or any overall reasons to buy a machine new over a used one. Warranty is the main one but they’re so repairable and parts are so readily available it doesn’t seem like such an issue which is unusual for a modern item. Gaggia UK will even do a full service for £85... if I did that I’d still be spending half what the new machine would cost.

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