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  • So if the choice is between the
    1:"vote for the face punching party" or the
    2:"Maybe we need a hug party, shall we talk about it? Or a punch with a soft glove? We have options..." party means we all get to get punched in face ;)

    I think Labour genuinely tried with the NHS papers, but it seems the "definitely not exagerating and lying" party supporters got all upset about the lack of nuance.

    The oven ready Brexit is also pure bull, but then it is easy to explain. And a lie.

    Hopefully Labour learns, but they have standards to keep too. The current Tories don't have that problem.

    It seems though that the Brexit fudging hurt them less than the leader. So perhaps the solution is then quite easy... popular leader, trim the messaging, hope the Tories fuck up.

    By then it may be too late though to turn around and make up with the EU, if a Brexit that benefits just the USA is pushed through, cha...

  • By then it may be too late though to turn around and make up with the EU, if a Brexit that benefits just the USA is pushed through, cha...

    I expect we'll be so irrevocably bound up by trade deals* with the US that even an attempt to rejoin the EU will be utterly punitive, and make austerity look like Christmas.

    * trade deals that will, to all intents, castrate Parliament, and subsequent governments, and make sovereignty a fanciful anachronism.

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