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  • Agree with you both @Wrongcog and @chris0

    I think Cummings not only used social media far better than anyone else to drip feed his poison into society but also used it to gain an understanding of the motivations and drivers trending in society. As I've said earlier he outplayed everyone else. And I think this is where my deepseated feeling of injustice comes from. I have been brought up to be fair and not lie and I'm left confused and deflated by a system of governance that has been corrupted with lies and unfairness.

    Ironically the 2 people who brought me up with these values voted to leave and tory.

  • “Ironically the 2 people who brought me up with these values voted to leave and tory”.

    This I see as a positive thing though. Whatever motivated their current vote we can hope that they will expect a general sense of morality overall..? I think (hope) that that stands for many people and despite my instincts telling me we are corrupted beyond repair it’s people like you and your parents who can hold government to ultimate account. Am I right in suspecting they’d be let down and swing the other way if Boris doesn’t deliver decently?

  • Am I right in suspecting they’d be let down and swing the other way if Boris doesn’t deliver decently?

    The sad thing is, I don't think so. You'd have thought that having voted tory all their lives they'd have looked at the last 4 years in politics and that sense of morals would have got them questioning this. But sadly not. The truth is, it all comes from my dad. He's well and truly swallowed the relentless pro tory anti everything (and everyone) else barrage in the media. In his mind all our problems are due to immigrants and he can't seem to see beyond that. I thought he might have mellowed in older age, but he's got more and more venomously intolerant.

    My mum on the other hand is the kindest, nicest, most emotionally generous woman you could meet, but has little interest in the detail of politics. And being in such close proximity to my incensed dad most of her waking life means his views have permiated in. I thought I was getting somewhere with her in convincing her of a different view, but something she said recently made me realise she's still going to vote tory. I realised that my once a week (at best) chats with her stand no chance against 24/7 hate crimes from dad.

    They're hard working people, absolutely working class and my dad is still working at 69 despite needing a quadruple heart by pass, which the NHS will obliged him with.

    Just about the only silver lining in any of this is that they're in a constituency where lib dems increased their majority from a declining tory share, so he's represented by a remainer in Parliament. Sorta the yin to the yang of me being represented by a Tory. Not that whether you're a remainer or leaver will have much baring on anything now.

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