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  • Thanks for that Alan.

    So a shiny, centrist policy vacuum like Chuka or David Miliband would have stopped those votes in Blyth Valley or Bolsover going Conservative?

    Bollocks.

    There's lots of stuff Corbyn was poor at and lots of ways in which his message did not resonate. But one of the big reasons he has struggled is the constant stream of Labour MPs and former MPs telling everyone he was shit.

  • They seem to have been proved right...

  • Plus the misleading stuff on anti-Semitism and the comments by Johnson's mate aka The Chief Rabbi.

  • There's lots of stuff Corbyn was poor at and lots of ways in which his message did not resonate. But one of the big reasons he has struggled is the constant stream of Labour MPs and former MPs telling everyone he was shit.

    Isn't that mixing up cause and effect though? That criticism wouldn't stick if he weren't - well - a bit shit?

  • But one of the big reasons he has struggled is the constant stream of Labour MPs and former MPs telling everyone he was shit.

    Yep. If Labour MPs hadn't spoken their minds then the press definitely would've said only nice things about Corbyn rather than relentlessly attacking him.

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