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  • Totally, but how are you going to go about "those that have been left behind?"

    Taxation and socialism?
    Socialism has a track record so poor it's impossible to ignore or evade it.

    This is an area where getting bogged down in semantics is important.

    What is socialism and what is capitalism, and what do we mean by there application in modern societies?

    There are plenty of successful European countries that I would cite as showing socialist policies clearly work. People often shout them down as not being "true" socialist societies. On the flipside, I struggle to think of any "true" capitalist societies.

    But to specifically answer your question, yes. Taxation.

  • I struggle to think of any "true" capitalist societies.

    Honduras is apparently moving that way, and it's potentially an utter shitshow.

  • But even there we see how hard it is to extract which factors impact the most.

    My understanding was a large part of the breakdown was due to efforts against the drug trade elsewhere in the region which has moved it to Honduras - specifically the east which geographically is pretty sparse and wild. It's definitely the only place in Central Am I felt unsafe the majority of the time.

    Even if you wanted to use the drug industry as an example, is that "true" capitalism? Or does the use of illegal force invalidate it.

    Basically I feel that the "no true Scotsman" argument only seems to play one way.

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