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@rob_g_clarkson
So.... now on my 2nd etap 2x11 rear derailleur, the 1st failed after 103 miles... 2nd one has done 260 miles and that too has now failed... fucking sick of it, the whole groupset is going back, at least if a cable snaps it can be repaired roadside, this has left me with a 2x1 bike twice now... bloody chuffin thing