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  • but it's really difficult to do without people (or at least @greenhell) flipping out.

    I'm guessing you don't know him so it may be hard to read, but, despite being a bit sweary, geenhell is hardly "flipping out." And calling out a specific person in your post, well attempting to take on some sort of tone of maturity, isn't really that good of a look.

  • Entirely fair point. Now edited. I don't mind sweariness, I dislike people pre-emptively shutting down debate by proscribing the use of specific terminology (unless it's overtly hateful). That was the irony that I was pointing out previously.

  • Completely agree, just like 'virtue signalling' just because some alt right cunts hijacked the term doesn't mean that it's no longer valid

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