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  • And I may have misunderstood Miro's argument but I think it's clear why - I suggest that you need to see colour to understand the concept of privilege

    I agree with you on this, but I'm always confused about how we actually apply this in real life to any given individual. If profiling (which we take to be a problem in and of itself) includes trying to infer whether someone is carrying a knife from their skin colour, then it also presumably includes trying to infer other aspects of their experience of their behaviour or experience (even positive/beneficial ones) from their skin colour. That (albeit less oppressive) form of profiling is how we end up with journalists implying that David Cameron didn't really suffer when his son died because "he's privileged."

    These types of arguments frequently fall down (just as they do with stop and search) when you try to move from a societal problem affecting a whole group to talking about an individual. This version of "identity politics" needs critiquing as much as anything else, but it's really difficult to do without people assuming that you are coming at it from an alt-right perspective.

  • but it's really difficult to do without people (or at least @greenhell) flipping out.

    I'm guessing you don't know him so it may be hard to read, but, despite being a bit sweary, geenhell is hardly "flipping out." And calling out a specific person in your post, well attempting to take on some sort of tone of maturity, isn't really that good of a look.

  • Entirely fair point. Now edited. I don't mind sweariness, I dislike people pre-emptively shutting down debate by proscribing the use of specific terminology (unless it's overtly hateful). That was the irony that I was pointing out previously.

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