EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

It was a question for Miro. Draw your own inferences on meaning.

I think this is probably a good definition

What fuckery are we arguing about?
That there's no racism now?

It got resolved.

Yep, Harry married Megan, that pretty much quashed it for me.

alt righteous

Ftfy

Something about golf?

^ 5 notes this shitwit types something hammerable by this time next week.

It's bobble bollocks, isn't it?

This is what a couple beers and a rushed comment on the loo does

Splendid...

Do you ever get bored of the alt-woke routine?

I doubt it. @hoefla called it and snotty nailed it.

Meanwhile, Gove being spectacularly dumb on Radio 5 Live this morning...

Interviewer: On a scale of 1 to 10, what's the likelyhood the Andrew Neil/Boris interview happening? Give us a number.
Gove: I think the number would be 0207 930 4433. That's the Prime Minister's diary secretary and if you ring that number, he will know...

It's the Downing Street switchboard number and they're ofc now swamped.

Gove being spectacularly dumb

Dumb, yet still managed to sidestep it and got a funny story out of it instead.

It's the Downing Street switchboard number and they're ofc now swamped.

Ahahahaha. I was thinking "well that's actually kind of witty" until you said it's actually the real number...

Well, he surely hasn't made any friends among the switchboard staff.

Yup, Gove is definitely one of the smartest. Horrible, horrible c*nt.

That’s the argument used for police profiling.

Yes, but in a more meaningful way, no - it's also the argument used AGAINST racial profiling.

You're arguing in a very pure way to make absolutely no distinctions in the way we see and treat people based on their skin colour, which is admirable. But unless we see the different ways in which people with different skin colours are treated, positive and negative, we cannot as a society compensate for any unwarranted discrimination (or in this case, unwarranted privilege) they receive as a result. I believe in equality of opportunity. This is one way we get there.

You're arguing in a very pure way to make absolutely no distinctions in the way we see and treat people based on their skin colour,

Neither of the two people being dicks about this are making that argument. One of them is pretending to make that argument to cover simple racism, while the one you're responding to is off on their own, unique tangent (one that leads up their own arse).

which is admirable

No, it isn't. At best it's ignorant defensiveness, trotted out in a reactionary fashion when somebody feels that a group they're a member of is being accused of bigotry. More often it's just a blunt attempt to sidestep their own bigotry. Miro is off on some other path and I'm sure they'll explain it at tedious length at some point (and at no point as accurately as "alt-woke").

I come across a lot of hate on Gove here on Lufguss. To me personally he doesn't stand out enough to become one of the truly vile Tories, but then again I've never looked very closely at his particular stance on various issues. I appreciate I am missing a lot of detail, what do I need to read to get more of an understanding of why he is so reviled?

He's a lizard in a human suit.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4yN4q

I'm only talking to Miro, there's absolutely no reaching alt right bigots.

And I may have misunderstood Miro's argument but I think it's clear why - I suggest that you need to see colour to understand the concept of privilege, and Miro says that that seeing colour is the argument used in favour of racial profiling, as though it were a) true or b) relevant to a discussion about privilege.

If he's arguing for anything other than colour-blind approach to the world he should say so, because that's all I got from what he said.

Any of his journalism would be a good start. Or basically anything about him. Or just take it from the collective that he is truly vile and save yourself the bother of wading in the sewage.

Baroness Warsi considers him to be one of the Tory's worst racists. But he isn't a Labour MP and its islamophobia rather than anti semitism, so no body know anything about it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michael-gove-donald-trump-baroness-warsi-anti-muslim-crazy-tory-chairwoman-a7649411.html

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1202891283360100353?fbclid=IwAR1LETAx23S5rw2-RT0cTNSsBazNKOB10Uw6gh_bx8tbtsRMivYqiRqWdIk

Boris "plan" means border checks for NI and is bad for the local economy, no surprise there.
Keir Starmer cannot give a straight answer on why Labour's plan won't mean any checks, even though they don't seem to want full alignment. No surprise there either...

Nobody is talking about the car industry atm? I doubt they are happy with Boris' "plan" either.

Nobody is talking about the car industry atm? I doubt they are happy with Boris' "plan" either.

A lots of company have gagging order from the government, don’t know how many of the car manufacturers are under it.

There's not much to say about the car industry - they're all going to leave, along with Airbus.