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  • Reads awfully... TBH though, if even half of the highlights I read are on the money, it's shocking the levels of abuse that inactivity or outright disinterest have allowed.

  • You couldn't make this shit up. The Brexit Party, putting Brexit at risk

    Oh Jesus, please....

  • The choice of who a voter would like as their MP, and why a voter would like them is up to the voter.

    Ultimately though, what that voter is voting for is the person, hence their name being in big letters. That's the legal up and down of it.

    If I had my way, party names wouldn't be on the ballot papers, just the candidate names, but I can see why they are, and the issues it would cause if they weren't.

  • I got the tube in this morning and there was a guy standing outside handing out leaflets. I thought it was the usual Jehova's Witness guy, but then I noticed it was our local MP.

    He's been MP for years, it's a very safe seat, and he's very nearly been assassinated at a surgery by a constituent, but he's there on a cold winter morning on his own handing our newsletters.

    He had my vote anyway, but I thought it was great.

  • Pretty disappointing

  • 70 members of staff giving evidence is pretty shocking.

    I wonder how that compares to racism in other parties - but either way, it's presumably not 70 people who would rather see Tories win than Corbyn, as some tweets are suggesting.

    There is a lot of internal criticism of JLM, and some of it is deserved - seeing Ruth Smeeth on C4 news telling someone from Jewish Voice for Labour [something like but not exactly] "Who even are you? You're irrelevant!" was a low point that springs to mind - but this is not a good situation.

  • sorry, but I've just looked up that interview and I'm not entirely sure she says those words

    https://www.channel4.com/news/ruth-smeeth-on-anti-semitism-this-is-a-heartbreaking-day-to-be-a-jewish-labour-mp

    is it another interview your referring to?

  • What did she say exactly? That's how I remembered it, so if the words differed it was similar in tone.

  • nothing like that, almost exactly opposite in tone. she was very critical of Jeremy Corbyn and said it's a heartbreaking day to be a Jewish Labour MP. She then went on to say that Corbyn should have been more critical of the anti-antisemitisim demonstration in March 2018 and that the member of Jewish Voice for Labour shouldn't be criticising other parties records on racisim until Labour has their house in order.

  • She says "Jewish Voices for Labour, whoever they are" shouldn't have been allowed to express opposition to the JLM protest, and says that JLM represents "the whole Jewish community".

  • Ah yes, but her point was that Jewish Voices for Labour had held an anti-antisemitisim demonstration which she infers was therefore antisemitic and should have been condemned by JC. I think you've got the sides of the debate the wrong way around.

    not sure which way this goes as from either point it's critical, but anyhow

  • I don't.

    I think, essentially, as the guy from JVL says in that debate, that any anti-semitism in the party is too much, and that the comments in the report are horrible.

    But the Jewish people who have questioned the motivations behind the Jewish Chronicle's reporting, the timing of the leak, the JLM's demonstrations and the rabbi's intervention have been shut out of it a lot. Maybe it's just because I follow Jewdas and David Rosenberg on Twitter that I hear a lot of complaints about them. But Ruth Smeeth refusing to accept that Jewish people may hold other opinions on Corbyn didn't go e across well.

  • Ok, that's a bit laboured, but you can see the anger. Holly and Phil trouser £5m a year between them and pose for selfies with Johnson in the same week they demanded an apology for AS off Corbyn. That's what manufactured consent looks like right there.

  • Maybe it's just because I follow Jewdas and David Rosenberg on Twitter that I hear a lot of complaints about them.

    You could also go to the next Leon Rosselson gig (12th January at Walthamstow Folk Club).

    Leon is, shall we say, not best pleased about what's going on supposedly in his name.

  • I've just joined the policies game with a red/green split. My dilemma is where to vote. I have two choices. Either in London where Labour MP with 79% vote was 69 points ahead of Tories and others or in New Forest East where brexiteer Tory MP had 63% vote being 43 points ahead of Labour and the rest. Where is the effective tactical vote?


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  • Amazing. Can't imagine that watching that would make him want to do the interview of course. Loved how he throws down the gauntlet at the end, challenges his pride almost.

  • a response no doubt to the vocal criticism the big british castle has rightfully received of late. a move in the right direction but shallow af.

    neil is an unapologetic right wing actor. even if this does happen, you'd be hard pressed to expect a fair shake

  • Would be awesome if they did a full half hour version 'for balance' on Tuesday.

  • It’s worth while pointing out that a lot of the leading BBC faces in news are right-wing. Evan Davis helped invent the poll tax, which is a bit shocking. It also says a lot that they’ve all congregated in the BBC

  • i mean, it was decent of neil to give johnson the questions in advance.

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