GoatandTricycle-
not what I’m saying my man- what I’m saying is it would have made a lot more strategic sense (ie if they actually wanted to get the policy enacted that they so passionately desire) for those people to (if-not-support) not constantly undermine the labour party and its the leadership. they could still have continued to agitate for a second referendum and push labour towards it without being wreckers who risk inadvertently causing a hard brexit, due to bad strategy.
unfortunately, this probably all came about because the very well-meaning civilians who support continuity_remain have been led down the garden path by some people who have seen the brexit/remain issue as an opportunity to 1. launder their reputations and 2. kick jeremy corbyn while they’re at it. I’m not thinking jolyon, dunty etc here - I’m thinking cynical opportunists like campbell, blair, the lib dems etc.
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cozzzzzzzz
mauling swinson is good because: 1. schadenfreude; 2. she asked to see the manager (legal challenge to be included in the debates) and the manager (joe public) visibly not happy with her on a whole range of issues; and 3. helps focus peoples' minds on the real choice we have at this election. agree it may jeopardise the LDs in some CON/LD marginals; but it will have a similar effect in CON/LAB marginals.
people on the left of the labour party have been saying this for three years: the only route to 1. a referendum; and, therefore, 2. remaining in the EU is through a labour government. all while ian "I actually did brexit" dunt, windmill jolyon, femi FOCOF, led by donky etc have been running around trashing the reputation of the one man who can help get them what they want. this is the labour party to all those people now:
