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  • I have handsome cycles Mud Butlers in 45mm (very similar to VO hammered) over 38mm slick gravelkings. I wouldn't want to try and fit anything wider under them, I'd say close to the limit of functional clearance. 40mm tyres would fit but you'd probably start to get rub if you put in any kind of effort and you might start to get side-spray too.

  • Ahh yes I forgot I’d recently spotted the hilariously named mud butlers. Really don’t want to switch out my tyres as so far I’m loving them, but I’m too picky with the mudguards.

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