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  • I did think about it as I wrote it, but more because it is so Trumpian and I do really dislike it as a phrase. In the end used it as lazy shorthand.
    I disagree with your reasoning though Oliver. It was presented as news and it is falsified - so 'fake news' or 'false news' or whatever. The Onion or The Day Today are satirical news. Adding a modifier to 'news' is perfectly possible, especially if by doing so one is highlighting that what is presented as news is actually not.

  • This is interesting--only 2% of people without a fixed address (not necessarily homeless, although I consider living in a van to be borderline homeless) are registered to vote. By some strange coincidence, many of them could register in Johnson's or Rees-Mogg's constituencies.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/06/operation-votey-mcvoteface-voter-registration-drive-targets-boat-dwellers-and-sofa-surfers

  • I tend to watch a bit of sky news for some sub fox news style right wing lunacy for "balance" just to get myself out of my centrist dad echo chamber.

    That being said enjoy Kay Burley, not talking to James Cleverly

    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1192003392677261312/video/1

  • I enjoy Kay Burley taking down Richard Burgon.
    Not sure I've seen her do anything like that to Conservatives. Would watch. Always like a bubble popper.

  • I disagree with your reasoning though Oliver. It was presented as news and it is falsified - so 'fake news' or 'false news' or whatever. The Onion or The Day Today are satirical news. Adding a modifier to 'news' is perfectly possible, especially if by doing so one is highlighting that what is presented as news is actually not.

    It's obviously fine to disagree, but you're not addressing my point. It's one of conceptual propriety and how people can be manipulated by conceptual distortions. Of course it's also fine to add a modifier to news--'daily news' or 'foreign news' etc. are perfectly fine, but the problem with 'satirical news' is, again, that it is not news. It's satire, and satire may use news as its basis or in itself have news value, e.g. 'Alec Baldwin does Trump impression', but it is not news. The case with 'satirical news' is more harmless (although people do mistake satire for news), but 'fake news' is active manipulation in the way that I described above. Every time someone uses that term, they help people like Trump and their propaganda.

  • Ah, it's funny what people think software code looks like.

    Though, programming languages can also come in formats you might not expect.

  • How do you feel about the term 'fake Rolex'?

  • According to the Guardian Tom Watson is going to stand down as Labour's deputy leader and not stand at the election.

    That's fucking unexpected.

  • His tweet is linked above. ^

  • Ok, assuming (rightly) that I'm stupid, where can I find the Tory election manifesto? Have tried to gurgle it but most links are to Torygraph snark-itcles and other cul-de-sac bollocks.
    Would like to spend the next few days comparing and fact-checking the various party's claim and counter-claim.

  • It's just a picture of Mogg, wearing nothing but fifty pounds notes, watching as his nanny beats a poor person with a burning rake.

  • I don't think any of the manifestos are out yet.

  • I read first that as filthy pound notes. The rest I took at face value but the burning rake? Where'd that spring from? Garden of Earthly Delights?


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  • Ah, my bad then and thank you

  • I suspect Johnson or his mates are still writing the Tory manafesto, seein what flies an what dosen't in the next couple of weeks. Not expectin it to be detail heavy.

  • I may have mentioned it before, but the Tory manifesto is being written by a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party, and a lobbyist for Caudrilla

  • With those parents, the manifesto cannot but succeed as a true, One-Nation Conservative approach to uniting the whole of the UK.

    (Or it might be a Libertarian hate-rag, which I suspect might actually be the case).

  • I suspect Hieronymus Bosch would feel a little challenged by today's world.

  • member of the Revolutionary Communist Party

    I used to be in that; heady days, they were.

    My wife still hasn't forgiven me for Claire Fox.

    /csb

  • That statement is bs. Is he jumping because he thinks the ship is going down or is someone dropping a nasty story about him?

  • Its just a bland politician resignnation letter. Aren't they all bullshit?

  • Was thinking more about the timing, first day of Labour’s election campaign.

  • It also knocked the Tory campaign launch off the top of the news cycle, so swing and swings and roundabouts. At least he didn’t say poor people should be put down, or there all thick, etc, etc, etc.

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