Proper leather shoes

UK12 = 46.5EU though

Oh, Big and Tall: https://www.marksandspencer.com/big-and-tall-leather-gibson-lace-up-shoes/p/p60119946

Leather sole though. Not a deal breaker but prefer rubber/synth.

I am old! 😁

Dr Martens
Clarks
ECCO
Next
Tesco
Debenhams / John Lewis / house of Fraser

Dr Martens Had a pair and hated them
Clarks
ECCO
Next
Tesco (really?)
Debenhams / John Lewis / house of Fraser

EDIT: actually they have different versions so perhaps their plain brogue might be ok.

https://www.tkmaxx.com/uk/en/men/shoes/c/02050000?q=&sort=publishedDate-desc&facets=size:0007%2C0033%2CShoes%2C12.5:size:0007%2C0032%2CShoes%2C12:stockLevelStatus:inStock&page=1

8 on their website

https://www.clarks.co.uk/Mens/Black-Shoes/c/m106?q=:relevance:sizeGroup:adult/13&sort=relevance#page=1&pageSize=24&productIndex=20358122

Is this thread 'proper leather shoes' or 'help a giant feel human'?

Just picked up a pair or Red Wing's on eBay that are all black with their 'spitfire' leather which is a waxed suede. Anyone have any experience with them? I've had a search around and a few people on Reddit have them, just curious.

I was in the town doing something else so check in the store. Didn't start looking online until I saw this thread pop up/.

Something like: https://www.clarks.co.uk/c/Lair-Watch/p/20358122

You got 270-odd pages of hipster shoe talk before I waded stomped in.

shrug

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Rockport have always been favoured by the, ahem, larger gent

Stripy jumper optional.

This cordovan game is fun, huh? (Top brush is for suede).

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What's with the bone in the middle? Boiling stock off your old shoes?

Ta. Something like this might fit the bill. Waterproof leather sounds neat. Of course I look for them in the UK and they only have size fucking 10.

https://www.rockport.com/rockport/essential-details-ii-plain-toe-oxford/esntialdtliiplaintoe.html?cgid=mens-footwear-styles-all-mens-shoes&dwvar_esntialdtliiplaintoe_color=esntialdtliiplaintoe_blackleather

11 here https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01E6VU9CC/ref=asc_df_B01E6VU9CC53263348/?tag=pjuk-amazon.co.uk-21&creative=22374&creativeASIN=B01E6VU9CC&linkCode=df0&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=Rockport&i=shoes&rh=p_n_size_browse-vebin%3A14675805031%7C1920039031%7C1920040031%2Cp_n_srvg_1642288031%3A14223219031&dc&qid=1571735587&rnid=1642288031&ref=sr_nr_p_n_srvg_1642288031_2

:-) deer bone is used to remove creases from cordovan shoes. This is a new journey for me so I was surprised to hear this but it does indeed work... really cool. I believe it’s because it’s a relatively fatty bone, or something like that, and the fat soaks into the cordovan and helps reduce the appearance of creases.

Turns out cordovan needs quite a lot of maintenance....

Not in black and still too small.

That's better.

It doesn’t crease ime, but you get cool Michelin man rolls. I would use products sparingly and just use a horse hair brush and the bone. You might get water spots in the rain and they can be very difficult to remove, some people suggest going over the whole boot with a damp cloth to even them up.

@jv - ripple, crease, line? A line was definitely there from forcing my feet into them when I first got them (tight, stiff loafers). The deer bone made the line disappear. Was very happy.
Tbh, I was taking advice from my slightly OCD uncle who has owned the same three pairs of Color 8 Cordovan Alden's (jealous) for over a decade. He advised me the following:

*So … I generally use Renovateur after every 3rd wear, and use Renovateur followed by wax polish after every 5-6 wears, but it depends on how heavily creased or dirty they get. If they get wet then I go through the complete cleaning ritual once they’ve dried out.

Before using Renovateur spray a fine mist of water over the shoes and immediately buff up with the brush until they’re dry - this will remove dirt and dust from the leather. Use a clean cotton cloth and rub in a small amount of Renovateur all over each shoe; if the creases are quite heavy you can press extra cream into the creases to smooth them out. With the shoe trees in place you can press down hard against the wood and to smooth out the creases. Leave to dry for 5-10 minutes then buff with the brush to give a nice shine and finish off with the microfibre cloth.

If the creases are very heavy use the deer bone to smooth them out, again with the trees in place - there are plenty of YouTube videos showing how to do this. Again, buff up with the brush and finish off with the microfibre cloth.

Apply wax sparingly - the Renovateur will clean and condition the leather so you only need the wax to maintain the colour of the shoes, and to give a glossy shine. Apply a thin layer, leave to dry for a few minutes then buff up with the brush. The more you brush the better the shine will be. And once again, finish off with the microfibre cloth.*

my slightly OCD uncle

If the creases are very heavy use the deer bone to smooth them out, again with the trees in place

A few years ago I wouldn't have known what any of that last bit meant

GH Bass navy leather/suede and nubuck moc boots for £35, go on then.

They're ace... TK?