Chain Waxing

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  • If I can do it without making a mess, pretty much anyone should.

    I see your bold statement and I raise you impatient hippy in small kitchen with tubs, pots and bags full of chemicals.

  • I draw your attention to my carefully-qualified 'pretty much' statement. But srsly, it's not hard with a spoon and some scales.

  • I need new scales

    #hippyisfat

    No, the coffee ones.

  • thanks... this stuff sounds bad

  • I got my MOS2 from eBay. Cost me £8 for 50g, he's put his prices up since, must be all these DIY waxers!

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOLYBDENUM-DISULPHIDE-50g-MoS2-99-99-Very-High-Quality-Material-FREE-P-P/372491772979?hash=item56ba3d6433:g:O0sAAOSwuQxadblJ

    As for the teflon powder, I didn't fancy ordering from China and having the Old Bill knocking on my door thinking it was marching powder, so got some from a company who specialise in piano servicing and parts, as it's used on the hammers (or whatever the fcuk they are called). Cost me about £15 for 25g IIRC.

  • Nice one. If you find that link to the teflon stuff could you fling that up here too.

    Did you ever run raw wax? How did it compare with the wax + additives?

  • As for the teflon powder, I didn't fancy ordering from China and having the Old Bill knocking on my door thinking it was marching powder

    I got mine off eBay from China. Plod seemed unconcerned, as far as I know. If they have put me under surveillance as a result it's been very subtle.

  • Plod seemed unconcerned

    Aside from the fact that PTFE is pretty easy to distinguish from coke, I don't suppose they have time for anything under a kilogram anyway.

  • I did. It took slightly longer to run in. And it might have lasted for less, although can't be 100% as adding the extra ingredients coincided with also leaving the chain in the wax for a sustained period after the heater was switched off, to help** with not having the wax run straight out of where it was supposed to stay.

    ** I read this on the internetz, it must be true

  • I found where I got it from, he's put his prices up to! Now £23 for 30g!

    https://www.pianoaccessoryshop.co.uk/product/teflon-powder-30g/

    But Googling 'Piano Teflon Powder' brings this up, enjoy.....

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302662998551

  • I carried a kilo of individually wrapped white powder baggies into the USA without anyone batting an eyelid. I'm pretty sure their scanners/dogs quite effectively ID dodgy shit vs. legit shit.

  • I prefer to buy from local suppliers. There's this stuff, not sure if a lack of particle size is relevant for a chain lube. 1.6um 3um whatever.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hagen-Automation-Micronised-PTFE-powdered-lubricant-for-3D-printers-pianos/192908859821

  • It's not that bad, assuming the chain is well degreased first time before applying it. I just wipe with a rag any excess before each application, takes one minute. Also, most of the dirt gets expelled during the rides, I can find dry crap under the turbo

  • 1L bottle of Loctite SF 7840 arrived. Next weekend is shaping up to be super exciting!

  • Well, add this thread to the "things I don't need, but now want after reading 7 pages". Thanks..

  • Welcome.

    It's still cheaper than moving to a hot country.

  • Just run two cassettes through Loctite 7840. Not bad. Doesn't smell as much as turps and is water-based so slightly less toxic than the other shit.

  • water-based so slightly less toxic than the other shit

    There are plenty of extremely toxic substances which are soluble in water

  • Yeah, this isn't one of them, or it would have more warnings on the back.

  • LOCTITE® SF 7840 is a concentrated, biodegradable cleaner that contains no hazardous solvents and dilutes with water to serve a wide range of industrial cleaning applications. Typical applications for this product include motors, motors, castings, valves, bearings, tanks, machinery, windows, carpets, and concrete floors. The product can remove grease, lubricants, cutting oils, fuel oils, tar, road salt, light carbon, food stains, wax, animal fat, mildew, and soot.

    Biodegradable
    Solvent free, non-toxic, and non-flammable
    Can be diluted with water
    Removal of grease, oil, cutting fluids and workshop grime

  • Is PTFE powder essentially a microplastic that's being released into the ecosystem?

  • Is PTFE powder essentially a microplastic that's being released into the ecosystem?

    Yes. Whether it's one of the bad ones is a different matter.

  • who is gonna reverse crowdsource this and run a lfgss chain waxing day when we can all come for a wiggle and a dip then?

  • All sounds like faff to me when there ready made clean lubes already on the shelf.

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